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My second wild Dumeril's (and other things from down south in Madagascar)

Hi desertanimal (Steph?),

Kathy sent me the link to your latest post. Wow, I sure have missed visiting Madagascar the last 3 years, but your stories and pics help fill the gap - THANKS!

I just wanted to add some IDs to your critters for you, as I'm guessing you weren't sure since no names were mentioned. The first reddish-brown chameleon looks like an adult female spiny chameleon Furcifer verrucosus, and the battling chameleons are adult male spiny chameleons Furcifer verrucosus. The one shot of a smaller bright green one (right after the two locking jaws) looks like an adult male carpet chameleon Furcifer lateralis, and the last one is an adult male spiny chameleon Furcifer verrucosus all colored up for the breeding season, which you’re at the end of in March in SW Madagascar.

The big 'roof' snake is Ithycyphus oursi, the 'zebu killer' from other parts of the country where the species has a red-tinged head. Some rural people believe it waits in trees for a zebu to walk by underneath and drop like a spear to kill it. I saw one of that species at Beza-Mahafaly, draped loosely on a horizontal branch that was jutting out from the main tree clutter of branches about 12 feet up. Although I didn't see any action, I got the distinct impression it was waiting there for a bird to land on that perfect perch branch. That species blends so well with the bark that it seemed like a logical hunting strategy, assuming they also include birds in their diet. Glaw & Vences cites Oustalet's chameleons as known food, but they're also known to take rodents in captivity.

On the battling snakes, the victim looks like Madagascarophis meriodionalis, and the aggressor appears to be the poorly known snake Liophidium “vaillanti”; I put that name in quotes because the pic of it in Glaw & Vences (2007) on page 435 looks exactly like it, though it’s not known to occur outside of Isalo (according to the book). There isn’t any mention of that genus of snake even eating other snakes, so your observation and pic may be a first. I should mention that you're situated in a very poorly studied part of Madagascar, and your observations and pics could be valuable to herpetology. Please keep accurate written notes of things you observe because 'common' things you're witnessing could be new info to science.
 
Gecko IDs....

Oh, I see the gecko pics are now visible too. The one on hand looks like a cute little bastard --- a juvenile Paroedura bastardi, that is. The cryptic grey one on the tree trunk is an adult Phelsuma mutabilis, I'm sure. I wasn't aware of its bug butt-licking tendency. Just another example of why you should carefully document all observations and cross-reference them with your pictures. When you get back from your project, I'll get you in touch with the authors of the Mad. herp guide in case your notes shed light on new things.
 
Thanks very much for the IDs, Bill. I'm usually ok on the snakes (but didn't have my guide with me), but I admit to being completely lost with the chameleons! I can tell they're different from each other, but I can't tell which of a couple they are most like in the book! And the geckos, if they're juveniles, yeah, not so good with those either. I'll keep notes as you suggest, and I'll be sure to be in touch with you when I get back. Thanks a bunch! When I get back, too, I'll send you bigger copies of a bunch of photos in case you can use them in lectures or something. Cheers!
 
Awesome pictures! I love the stripey snake and the Chameloens and the butterflies and...ok I liked them all, lol. Hope your having a great time down there, I would love to go some where like that.
 
Thought I'd throw up pics of the third wild Dumeril's and a couple of other things. I really fell in love with this boa. It never huffed or puffed and was very calm. I found it in the bathroom two mornings running, and was able to get some of the Malagasy guys, even, to hold it. It was a first for both of them to hold a boa. In general, people here are very afraid of snakes. This was one was a perfect first-timer.
 

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Please tell me he doesn't go down that hole!!! Nice pics!! Your kids are fine- Colorado is on springtime hunger strike and out 24 hours a day, it seems. I renamed Scout again- Mr. Twitchety. He isn't about to give up his jumbo mice, but he IS in the mood for love! He likes watching House with me.
 
Haha! He doesn't. I didn't re-release him in the WC because I was afraid of that. I released him in the shower next door both times. I will start checking with my headlamp, though, once a day when I get back to make sure a snake doesn't get stranded down there. I don't go in there that often, actually. I don't use it to pee and, well, on the diet that's making me a lot thinner I don't have a need to use it often. But now that I found him there I will start going in once a day just to see if there are any treasures, or if any treasures are stuck in really unpleasant places and need help out! :puke01:
 
Well I am glad to hear you are safe. See we are thinking of you here and are concerned for your welfare. :)
Love the photos.. keep them coming and we expect a full herp report after you get back. ;)
 
I renamed Scout again- Mr. Twitchety.
LOL! I know! That boy does have the serious twitches, it's true. Sad thing is, I've never given him an appropriate outlet for them! But with his appetite (which I like in a snake), I'm sure to do so when I get them all back. I do like granites, after all . . .
 
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