Blizzard..or Avalanche?

[jessicashallperish]

this is a 2011 hatchling i recently purchased. the breeder advertised him as a blizzard, but also told me that he MIGHT be an avalanche, since he has SOME pattern, but you can only see it with certain lighting. his siblings were blood reds, and he's het for charcoal. he has no belly pattern at all, completely white.
any ideas which one he is?

 

[Christen]

I would say Avalanche. If he is only het charcoal then he can't be a blizzard. Did he say what the genetic of the parents were.

 

[jessicashallperish]

One was normal het charcoal het diffused one was bloodred het charcoal

 

[jessicashallperish]

theres something i'm forgetting. but one there were three white babies in his clutch, two were whiteout blizzards.

 

[Christen]

Huh and obviously both were het amel. Any chance you can get a belly shot? If the parents weren't het anery then it wouldn't be an avalanche.

One thing for sure it is going to be a pretty snake.

 

[jessicashallperish]

He has a clear belly. No patterns or checkered

 

[fyrefocks]

It can't be an avalanche if no anery is involved. That would make it definitely a blizzard. Not being able to see belly checks could be because it's a whiteout, but it could also be because it's a blizzard. I had a blizzard poss. whiteout once... Anyway, breeding trials will tell you for sure.

 

[Nanci]

This is a very young avalanche, after his second shed. He may be homo hypo- can't tell. A few months older he still has a very definite pattern. (This is White Mamba- I've posted recent pics of him).

Why wouldn't yours be a whiteout- how does anery even get involved?

 

[jessicashallperish]

My little ones pattern is VERY faint. And his belly is completely clear. The other white ones in his clutch were all whiteouts, no avalanches.. But the breeder was unsure because he's the only one with a faint pattern

 

[Christen]

Yeah he can't be an avalanche because of the no anery in him. So he is either a blizzard or whiteout. I am thinking whiteout.

 

[NickP961]

I agree. He looks like a blizzard or a whiteout. At first glance he looked like an avalanche, but if Anery A because that isn't involved, it is most likely a whiteout.

 

[Nanci]

I don't think he looks like an avalanche at all. Not enough contrast.

 

[airenlow]

Who is the breeder?

 

[jessicashallperish]

he came from kyle , aka "forkedtung" on here

 

[ForkedTung]

Hey Jessica, I'm sorry for the confusion, may have been my fault if I said Avalanche, what I meant was whiteout...Here are the parents and possible comobos ( no Anery A, just B[charcoal]).

[QUOTEMale: Fire ( Amel, Diffused ) het Charcoal

Female: Normal het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused

Phenotype:

1 / 16 Charcoal het Amel, Diffused
3 / 16 Diffused het Amel 66% poss het. Charcoal
3 / 16 Amel het Diffused 66% poss het. Charcoal
3 / 16 Normal het Amel, Diffused 66% poss het. Charcoal
1 / 16 Pewter ( Charcoal, Diffused ) het Amel
3 / 16 Fire ( Amel, Diffused ) 66% poss het. Charcoal
1 / 16 Blizzard ( Amel, Charcoal ) het Diffused
1 / 16 Whiteout ( Amel, Charcoal, Diffused )][/QUOTE]

If he's still not showing much pattern then I'd call him a Whiteout!

He's looking good, best of luck, Kyle

 

[jessicashallperish]

He's still not showing much patttern at all. they're both doing great too, the bloodred is gonna be a biiiiig girl.

 

[ForkedTung]

He's still not showing much patttern at all. they're both doing great too, the bloodred is gonna be a biiiiig girl.

Awesome, her mom is a big girl too, so the genetics are there, and she double clutches on her own, without rebreeding.

 

[jessicashallperish]

she's shed for me, the blizzard(whiteout?) hasn't. he's a litttttle guy. both have amazing appetites and i dont have to tease the male anymore, he just snatches it up. i'm excited for them to grow up, cus i'd like to pair them.

 

[ceduke]

Whatever the morph, he's a looker! I like his subtle pattern a LOT.