Stripes and the funky Eye thing.....

Ok,

This all started when Someone Noticed that RED VELVET (Hypo Stripe Bloodred), Had a funky Pupil. You can See R.V. In the Photo Section.

So, I started looking closer at a few of the other "Striped" corns I have...and this Is what I find.....

The following pic is of "Freckles" (Stripe het lava Ph Opal) Right & Left Eyes.

I'll Post more...if I find More interesting things....

when i get home i am going to check mine out!

So, Apparently, I'm Waaaaaaay behind! My Understanding is that over In germany, the correlation between certain lines of stripe corns and funky pupils is commonplace? So much so.....they,the breeders,Avoid using those afflicted with this "Anomaly" in their breeding programs.

I guess we learn something new everyday!

I find this fascinating.

gelshark said:

when i get home i am going to check mine out!

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Yes! Please do! And feel free to post pics of your "Funky" pupils if you find any.

I find it irrelevant. A harmless oddity.

Nanci said:

I find it irrelevant. A harmless oddity.

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I think it's neat...but yes..Harmless....Doesn't appear to affect the animals

health,Vision or general well being. Just as you stated... A harmless oddity, But

a really cool one!

rich333 said:

So ... over In germany... funky pupils is commonplace ...

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So, if we have corns with funky pupils, they are german corns and not american corns? I wonder if the ACR had a GCR partner :sidestep:

still.. very interesting in the least!
I wonder why they are breeding them out? health concerns or maybe they wernt a fan of the look of the eyes.. I could understand that compleatly; although harmless, its not very attractive..

just my two cents,

When.where did the first striped cornsnake come from?

Nanci said:

When.where did the first striped cornsnake come from?

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are you thinking from a lab or a test tube?
i was thinking an egg
are these frankenstein corns?

Justine66 said:

still.. very interesting in the least!
I wonder why they are breeding them out? health concerns or maybe they wernt a fan of the look of the eyes.. I could understand that compleatly; although harmless, its not very attractive..

just my two cents,

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Justine,

I Honestly don't think there are health concerns, just the look. Otherwise a

Perfectly healthy Snake. Thats Like saying a "Cubed" corn is at a higher risk

for Health issues Because the saddles don't "Look" like normal saddles.

I think, As a general rule, The Human race strives for "Perfection". The

problem being....what one perceives as "Perfection", isn't so Perfect for

Someone else.... Thus the Old Addage:

"Beauty Is in the eye of the Beholder."

Jim,

If you should happen to View this thread......

Please...feel free to correct me...As this is the first I've heard of this(Just my 3 rd year breeding upcoming). I'm Honestly interested in learning more about the link between Stripes and the eyes.

Butter Stripe Right Eye

Butter Stripe Left Eye

Fire Stripe Right Eye

Fire Stripe Left Eye

Bloodred Stripe Right Eye

Bloodred Stripe Left Eye

rich333
I compleatly agree with you on that! And I did not think that they were unhealthy I was just wondering, Lol but I do think that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. for sure.

I am the only one in my family the is a HUGE fan of those hairless cats. I think their cute as heck! nut that's just me!

Gelshark,

Thank you for posting pics, And entertaining me with this "funky Pupil" thingie!

I like your butter stripe....Looks like only 1 eye is funky with that one.

gelshark said:

So, if we have corns with funky pupils, they are german corns and not american corns? I wonder if the ACR had a GCR partner :sidestep:

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LOL..Ummm.... :shrugs:

rich333 said:

Gelshark,

Thank you for posting pics, And entertaining me with this "funky Pupil" thingie!

I like your butter stripe....Looks like only 1 eye is funky with that one.

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Her name is Alice, and I only let her eat off of one side of the mushroom, you know the side that makes her grow taller...

The other two have to eat off of both sides so I know which side to give to Alice.

(Actually her real name is Tigerlilly, after the Indian Princess in Peter Pan)

I'd be interested to see those funky pupils in full sun. What do they look like when they're constricted? Both my striped corns have normal pupils.

I noticed this on my norm stripe het. Snow! Will try and get pics soon. It's not as extreme as some of these examples though, but enough that I was like "hmmm that's odd!"

rich333 said:

Jim,

If you should happen to View this thread......

Please...feel free to correct me...As this is the first I've heard of this(Just my 3 rd year breeding upcoming). I'm Honestly interested in learning more about the link between Stripes and the eyes.

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You're pretty much correct. We Germans, at least loads of us, don't like it when body modification goes too far. Scaleless is a good example - most breeders deteste that trait, it's deemed to be the abyss of morph breeding and most breeders would ever breed with that gene. The deformed pupils of stripeds are also one of that kind - why breed such deformed pupil striped snakes when you can have stripeds with regular pupils. I do believe these snake don't suffer or have health concerns, but imho normal circular pupils look much better than these deformed ones. Here in GER, these deformed pupils in stripeds are common guttatus knowledge, nobody makes a big WOW about it, regulary most breeders just don't like it and try to get rid of that thing from breeding stock.

Long story short: We don't breed everything just because we can - we just breed colour morphs - body modifications are one or two steps too far into the wrong direction. Tastes differ.

These pupils pop up in different expressions but without any constancy in shape. There are "cat-eyed" guttatus which don't give "cat eyed" guttatus but a big variety of other deformed pupils and there are "regular deformed pupils" corns which give "cat-eyed" guttatus - it's not controllable ("cat-eyed" guttatus are corns with that deformation which show these cat eyes in brigt sun. It looks weird ). afaik it's dominant, but definately linked to the striped gene, nonstripeds from deformed pupil lineages never show these strange pupils.