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Corporal Punishment?!?! Grandmother arrested for slapping granddaughter!

medusacoils

medusacoils

Mr. Enigma!
Take a gander at this!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/03/grandmother-arrested-slapping-granddaughter-cursing/

Florida -- 10Connects.com reports that Theresa Collier, a 73-year-old grandmother was arrested last week for slapping her 18-year-old granddaughter who was swearing at her.

Collier says she allowed her 18-year-old granddaughter, Felicia Collier, who had just gotten kicked out of Catholic school and is now enrolled in online classes, to use her computer to do homework. Felicia was kicked out for cursing at a nun, explained Collier.

Felicia did not want to obey her grandmother’s direction to complete her assignments.

"She kept repeating the F-word to me, about the whole family. She just went on and on and I just got so upset, I got up and slapped her across the face," she told 10 Connects, "She grabbed my wrists and I couldn't get out of it and she let one go and she punched me in the cheek here."

The unruly teenager then called the police who arrived at the house and arrested her grandmother.
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The charges were subsequently dropped, but this 73 year old woman spent 28 hours in jail.

http://www.unionleader.com/article....rticleId=1ab902b6-45f7-48ad-8b72-d356d9a9f1c9

The state of Florida is dropping a domestic battery charge against a 73-year-old New Hampshire snowbird who was arrested and jailed last week for slapping her granddaughter, police said.

Theresa Laura Collier said she slapped 18-year-old Felicia Collier after she unleashed a string of obscenities at her.

After one "F-bomb" too many, the petite matriarch stepped up. "I just got so upset," she told WTSP-TV in Tampa, "I got up and slapped her across the face."

Collier said her granddaughter then hit her in the face and called 911. Police officers in the city of Largo arrived and arrested Collier, against her granddaughter's wishes, citing a mandatory arrest policy in cases of domestic violence. Police maintain there was probable cause for the arrest.
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I use corporal punishment (slaps in the bum) as a last resort. That's after I have exhausted all the other tricks I have in my parental arsenal. If the behavior hasn't corrected, then a couple of good cracks are in order.

As far as this woman is concerned, I don't think she was out of line in any way. One F-bomb would be enough for me to act that way. I realize the police had no choice but to act that way, but at the same time, it's a bit much for what she did. She was parenting an obviously out of control child.

What is your opinion?

Wayne
 
a) An 18 year old is not a child. Bear in mind this was treated as domestic violence/battery, and not as an offence involving corporal punishment of a child.

b) Once 911 was dialled, sounds like the police had no discretion in the action they were required to take by their local authorities.

c) Sounds like that smack was about 10 years too late.

Hopefully the brat grandaughter had a major fright and learned a valuable lesson about actions and consequences. Sadly, I think this has more to do with accidentally getting her granny banged up for a day. The right effect may have been achieved, albeit not quite as expected.
 
You should never swear at your Grandma and you shouldn't slap people just because they use words you don't like. I hope everyone learned a lesson!
 
bitsy said:
a) An 18 year old is not a child. Bear in mind this was treated as domestic violence/battery, and not as an offence involving corporal punishment of a child.

b) Once 911 was dialled, sounds like the police had no discretion in the action they were required to take by their local authorities.

c) Sounds like that smack was about 10 years too late.

Hopefully the brat grandaughter had a major fright and learned a valuable lesson about actions and consequences. Sadly, I think this has more to do with accidentally getting her granny banged up for a day. The right effect may have been achieved, albeit not quite as expected.
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Too little too late! I dunno, if I did that in front of my grandmother, I would expect a beat down. If not from her, then from one of my many other family members.

Drizzt80 said:
18? F-Bomb to your Grandma? There's the door. Don't let it hit you on the way out.

D80
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Very much so!

Wayne
 
medusacoils said:
Too little too late! I dunno, if I did that in front of my grandmother, I would expect a beat down. If not from her, then from one of my many other family members.
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If I did that, I would be immediately running from the door, hoping I don't trip on the way out. I would prolly also try to stay hidden for a few weeks as well.
 
Every day the news in Florida has at least one story about an arrest for a ridiculous reason. Someone threw a hamburger at his wife. Someone grabbed his girlfriend's wrist. It's out of control. I'm not condoning violence, but what P-word calls the police because they got a hamburger thrown at them???

I couldn't _imagine_ using the F-word in front of my parents or grandparents. There would have definitely been a violent reaction. Did this fear of reprisal stop me from developing the vocabulary of a sailor? No, but it taught me discretion.
 
WOW, kuddos to this grandma.
There have been many times I would like to slap my grand-daughters (16 and 18) and more including ohmygowddocan'tdothattome take away cell phone. The phone is a permanant attachment to the hand texting none stop at family dinners. Cussing, screaming, trying to hit. The there is FB where all dirty laundry is aired drinking, sex, STD's, general mean girl stuff. Including telling me I'm an old bi*** and to shut the **** up. It makes me sick.
 
Swearing at gramma?
Seriously?
My gramma was one of the best people I ever knew.
Not only would I NEVER EVER have sworn at my gramma, I would have gone after ANYONE who did!!

(One time I had an arguement with my parents over my gramma's house. I don't remember what it was about now. I locked myself in her bathroom and broke a bar of soap in half in a fit of rage. I spent the next half hour crying and feeling awful because I broke my gramma's soap!!)
 
I have to admit, I smiled a little at the image of a 73 year old woman slapping someone across the face.

The girl is 18 and legally an adult. If I were grandma, she'd be out on her ass. If she can't respect the people taking care of her, then she can learn to take care of herself.
 
I would give anything if either of my grandmothers were still alive to smack me around.
It's just because they love you. And neither EVER slapped me.
But then, I have never, and would never, say the F word in the presence of either.
I think my mother slapped me once, years ago, but I deserved it (I have been told I have a sharp tongue..I do not know why). Mother's get a limited free pass on such things, too. IMHO.
 
I can't even imagine ever WANTING to slap my grandmother. She died at age 69, when I was 25---half a lifetime ago, and I STILL miss her. She was, at that time, the most important and influential person in mylife.

I never "did" corporal punishment with my children, and they all grew up to be great adults. That said, I got my bluff in early, while they were all still much smaller than I am :). They respect me, and I treat them with the same respect.

I suspect this 18 y/o young adult never had much in the way of guidance. Someone should have taught her LONG ago to respect her elders, her teachers, and her family.

Of course, some people just never "get it". I hope this girl isn't one of them.

Grandma, though, wasn't setting a good example by using violence against her granddaughter. As someone used to always say to me, "two wrongs don't make a right". So true. Better to have kicked the girl out until she learned some manners, and had the police escort her out if she wouldn't budge. Not that I can't understand Grandma's anger! I would have been furious, too, at the girl's language and attitude.
 
I never dropped an f- bomb around my grandmother let alone at her- go grandma I'd of smacked her too:)
 
mike17l said:
If I did that, I would be immediately running from the door, hoping I don't trip on the way out. I would prolly also try to stay hidden for a few weeks as well.
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Good point, Mike!

Nanci said:
I couldn't _imagine_ using the F-word in front of my parents or grandparents. There would have definitely been a violent reaction. Did this fear of reprisal stop me from developing the vocabulary of a sailor? No, but it taught me discretion.
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Amen! I drop F-bombs left and right with friends. I have to be VERY angry to drop one with my parents (and it's a rare thing) and I've NEVER used that word in front of my Grandparents. I'd expect my children to use the same discretion.

I tell my students all the time... how you speak with your peers and how you speak with your elders is and should be a totally different thing.

MohrSnakes said:
They hauled the wrong one to jail.
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Yeah, what he said!
 
... *sigh* It's times like this I feel embarrassed about admitting I live in Florida.

My grandmother is a 5-foot-nothing tall German lady with a wooden spoon attached to her hand. I let ONE swear slip out in front of her once when I stubbed my toe (just the "S" word, in German, because I swore in German at school to prevent getting in trouble), and I got WHACKED with that spoon. Did I call the cops? Nope. Probably because I deserved it. Taught me to hold my tongue when she's around, because she can go from 5'0" to 7'9" in about half a second when she hears something she doesn't like!
 
I'm glad the news is painting this as ridiculous as it is. I understand that the police have an obligation to take domestic abuse calls very seriously, and at least the woman was released, but we as a society coddle children too much. There are many spoiled brats I've seen throw temper tantrums long after they're too old for them, and all because they are never punished. Either privileges aren't taken away or physical punishments like time outs in a corner or even spankings for especially unruly kids. Everyone's afraid to hurt their precious little snotnose and the kids know it. Do you think this girl would've called the cops if she had any sort of guilt about her own actions instilled? A slap is FAR from physical abuse, sweety, as anyone who's actually experienced abuse can tell you.
 
I was never an extremely unruly child, My parents believed in spanking for almost everything.... Would I have called the cops? Never, I deserved every spanking I got.
In fact, the last spanking I received was when I was 19. I swore at my father and got what I deserved. I have never sworn at my parents or other family members since....

I don't understand why people get in such an uproar about spanking your kids. Everyone's definition of abuse is different. The way I was raise, some people either thought I was being abused, or didn't think I was getting spanked enough.

I would not be who I am if I were raised on punishments like "sit in the corner" and "don't make me count to 3". Those would not have worked on me, and when my mother tried them out, they did not work.
 
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