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2nd snake?

murder4me

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I saw an add on craigslist for a corn snake at a local fish store. I actually handled this same snake almost 2 months ago. Very friendly one too. I know I shouldn't buy from pet stores but this snake has been there too long and he's so friendly. They want $35.00 for him/her. I got my first corn only 6 weeks ago. What to do?
 
I like to remember that buying at a pet store means that selling animals there is profitable for them, encouraging them to continue doing it. It's my personal opinion that pet stores should sell pet supplies, not pets. Very few pets of any kind receive correct care at pet stores. I'm not saying not to get a second, only to consider getting your second from somewhere that you would like to support them to continue doing what they're doing. You may "rescue" this snake from there, but next week there will be a new one. As long as they continue to sell, the store will keep bringing them in. On the other hand, my main experience is with dogs and cats, so maybe others have different views on reptiles from pet stores?

Is it just me or is $35 extremely low for a pet store price? Snakes in pet stores around here are at minimum $100. I wonder why they have it priced so low?
 
I like to remember that buying at a pet store means that selling animals there is profitable for them, encouraging them to continue doing it. It's my personal opinion that pet stores should sell pet supplies, not pets. Very few pets of any kind receive correct care at pet stores. I'm not saying not to get a second, only to consider getting your second from somewhere that you would like to support them to continue doing what they're doing. You may "rescue" this snake from there, but next week there will be a new one. As long as they continue to sell, the store will keep bringing them in. On the other hand, my main experience is with dogs and cats, so maybe others have different views on reptiles from pet stores?

Is it just me or is $35 extremely low for a pet store price? Snakes in pet stores around here are at minimum $100. I wonder why they have it priced so low?

Sharan, it is obviously NOT a "fancy" corn like they sell in big box stores, otherwise he would be $100!!! :roflmao:

I totally agree with everything Sharan said, and am also curious as to why it is priced so low and if this is a constant thing, getting a new snake once the old one sells. This kind of turnover is not one I would shell out money for.

I do have some questions, you said it has been there at least two months. Is this a small pet store or a big box store like Petsmart? Do you know how old it is or, if not by age, its size? What morph is it? (if they can't answer the morph question that might be a red flag) Do they sell any other snakes or other reptiles or does this seem like something they acquired and are selling it for someone else, keeping the store mainly an aquatics store? How often and what does he eat? Where did they get him from? How is he being kept, is the cage clean, does he have clean water, fresh bedding, hides to hang out in, etc?

You don't say where you live in your info, could you post the CL ad or the name and phone number of the petshop? I would be happy to do some research for you and ask them these questions myself. Since I can't see what any of this looks like, please do let me know all of the living conditions, pictures would help a lot, they should have no problem letting you hold him and take pics of him being held and in his viv. If this is a problem, RUN.

I know, LOTS of questions, but this will also help people here give you an opinion. If it is in poor condition and a dirty tank with dirty water, I would pass. If it is looking healthy and clean and well cared for, this might be an opportunity for a great second corn!

I would NEVER recommend buying from a big box store, I agree with Sharan that they should sell supplies, not pets since they are pretty clueless about many species of animals and how they should be kept, but there are some smaller, reputable pet shops where they are very knowledgeable about what they are selling.

Last question for you, are you prepared to take on your second corn? They have to have separate enclosures, and you do have to quarantine the new kiddo in a separate room for 3 months to ensure he doesn't have any communicable diseases that could harm your first kid. Just make sure you have the viv all set up before bringing him home if that is the way you go.

So bring on the pics and the ad and any other info, we will help you with info so you can make an informed decision.

Sorry so long, but I always want what is best for you and the snake.

-Michelle
 
It's a privately owned store. Its not a petco or chain store. The owner doesn't buy reptiles, he takes donations. This particular store deals mainly in fish. This is actually the first corn I've seen there.
 
The add expired, I noticed yesterday morning. So I called the store yesterday afternoon and they said they still have it. All the ad said was "very nice snake with beautiful colors". I have no clue on the age, it's pretty big, not fully grown but good size.
 
The name of the store is Tropiquatics it's in Lombard, Illinois. About 20 minutes from my house. They have a few reptiles, I saw a ball, and a few miscellaneous lizards. They do care for their pets. The cage appears to be clean and neat. Not sure of the morph. Its orange colored, very pretty snake, so docile too.
 
I looked up their website, it looks like a nice place that is well organized.

I would go in and ask the owner the questions I posted above just to get a good (or bad) feeling on this, but if it done for donations I think you should go for it. I normally wouldn't say that, but if everything looks good, go for it!
 
I won't disagree with anything said here. Like I said, my main experience is with bigger animals. As a dog trainer, I can tell you for a fact it is nearly impossible to get a dog from a pet store without SOME kind of behavioral issues, and quite often health issues too.

I have noticed that things are quite different in the snake world, though I haven't been around long enough to form an educated opinion yet on whether they should be. Smigon's questions are on the same track as what I would ask for a rescue puppy. Don't be afraid to grill (politely) for answers, and if any of the answers gives you a bad feeling, don't be afraid to walk away.

If you do end up getting it, naturally, we'll need to see pictures so we can ooh and aah over your new baby!
 
Thanks. I have a good feeling about this. I'm considering it a rescue.

Buy the snake if you want it, but it's not a rescue. If you consider it needing "rescued," then you should never pay and support the person who neglected it.
Also, make sure and have the new snake's enclosure all sorted out before bringing him home.
 
I'm considering it a rescue because of how long it's been there, like 6 months. I felt sorry for it, but now he's mine. I can't seem to post a pic, it says file is the wrong size.
 
He's very friendly, the guy at the store was saying s he was going. He said he handled him at least 3 times a week.
 
He's really friendly and healthy. The guy that works there said he was sad to see him go. He said he took him out 3or4 times a week.
 
I won't disagree with anything said here. Like I said, my main experience is with bigger animals. As a dog trainer, I can tell you for a fact it is nearly impossible to get a dog from a pet store without SOME kind of behavioral issues, and quite often health issues too.

You are so right, I would never purchase a mammal from a petshop, you are almost guaranteed an animal from a puppy/kitten mill and the issues that come with them, and while this could be the same for corns, breeders who breed the crap out of all their snakes because they have petshops lined up to buy them, it is easier to tell an unhealthy fish or reptile than a mammal. I know there are always going to be the bad purchases, snakes that are unhealthy and the buyer has done no research and has no idea, and we as experienced (well, MILDLY experienced in my case!) owners know what to look for in a healthy snake.

Unfortunately there are too many impulse buys as with any pet, my hope for the pet world is that everyone who wants a pet do their homework first. This, I believe, would help end a lot of puppy mills and animals crammed in cages at pet stores. If everyone knew the true stories behind the mass breeding people would look to independent breeders for their pets.

Ah, me and my perfect pet world pipedream!

Bottom line, Murder, is I think this was a good thing on your part and for the snake too. I hope the owner was telling the truth, if he did handle him like he told you you will have a great pet on your hands!

Don't forget to leave him be for about a week so he acclimates to his new environment before you handle or feed him. I think this is the hardest part of getting a cornsnake!
 
Buy the snake if you want it, but it's not a rescue. If you consider it needing "rescued," then you should never pay and support the person who neglected it.

I pretty much agree with this, but if I saw a snake that was totally neglected and in a really bad situation, I wouldn't hesitate to pay something to get it out of the living conditions, and I would still consider it a rescue. I'd say it is about 50/50 with paying something for my "rescues", but I pay a very minimal price and it always includes accessories and the viv worth more than I pay for everything. Most people selling on CL just want it gone but want it to go to a good home which is why they include a price (no matter how high) so no crackheads will want to bother with it, and I never pay the price they are asking. I would never recommend saying "free" regarding any pet you advertise, but I always tell the seller what I do and how it will be taken care of, usually after talking with me I get everything for free, even if it is a well taken care of pet. The ones who won't budge I just move on from.

Also, make sure and have the new snake's enclosure all sorted out before bringing him home.

YES, THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Since this is your second corn in a short time you know what it needs, just make sure the viv is totally ready when you get him home.

I can't wait to see pics!
 
Okay, and we need something to call YOU! Typing "Murder" was kind of funny, but is there something you would rather be called?
 
I pretty much agree with this, but if I saw a snake that was totally neglected and in a really bad situation, I wouldn't hesitate to pay something to get it out of the living conditions, and I would still consider it a rescue.

Not to hijack the thread, but this is one of my biggest pet peeves. I've got a sticky called "Don't Pay for Rescues" in my personal forum, because I have been in and out of the pet industry since the 1980's and this has been a constant problem. There is no doubt in my mind, I could sell more common snakes at my pet shop by neglecting them than I do now. And I mean cohabbing, feeding irregularly, not cleaning cages, just letting them get as bad as I can, but keeping them alive. People will do anything to save an animal, even if it means give a bad person money so he can continue doing it. At least once a year, I lose a corn snake sale to the Dirtiest Pet Shop in the County out of pity for a suffering animal. I feel like this guy at DPSitC has virtually created an industry on selling poorly kept reptiles. "But it was going to die," or "I just felt so sorry for them" is usually said. This guy has been in business for over 20 years.

And yes, Smigon, "free" is a near death sentence for a pet shop animal. The dumbest rednecks with no true interest in the species are always the most likely to want it. And of course, they have no interest in proper habitat. There were a number of animals I couldn't sell in my shop, simply because they were too cheap and became disposable to people.

OP, I buy snakes every year, and certainly don't look down on people for doing it. You never did mention if you had another enclosure though. You aren't keeping these snakes together, are you?
 
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