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Anyone breeding really wild types?

Kevin S.

Kevin S.

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Not just normals, I mean corns that look like they're fresh from the field. I almost never see corns with longitudinal striping unless they're wc pics. Same for corns with dark melanin overlaying the pattern as in this one: http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7432

Just wondering if anyone was working with a line of "ugly" wild types rather than miamis, keys, okeetees, and kisatchees.
 
Kevin S. said:
a line of "ugly" wild types
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I don't know of any snakes that meet this description, but there are more than a few members that might. :)
 
IMHO -totally opinion here...

I believe the 'dirty wash' is a kind of snake suntan and animals that are exposed to full spectrum UV will develop it as a result of sunlight exposure. The best way to test this would be to have a number of captive hatched wild stock and put half in normal captive type terrariums and the other half in some kind of outdoor 'pen' enclosure (yeah, escape-proofing and predation have to be looked into) and I think you'd get the outdoors housed ones developing a tan once they're a bit older....anyone willing to take on this project!!!?
 
I just bought a corn from a pet store that had it labeled as a "lavender". As you can see by the pic (so sorry for the blurriness, batteries were going dead) she/he is by no means a lavender. I have never seen a corn with this coloring, it's mostly burgundy/maroon on the saddles, and a ?mauve? on the ground color, with a little orange towards the neck. I believe it to be either a wild caught hatchling or a captive hatched from a wild caught female. As much as I love the "flashier" morphs, this little gal to me was just beautiful, and I will be excited to see what she produces down the road. To me, "normal" corns are anything but, sometimes they can be more beautiful than a new morph that is going for top dollar. And Princess, that is an interesting thought, I wonder if UV lights placed on top of the viv would have a similar effect? Here is Lacey.
 

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I don't know about the suntan idea either way, but I doubt it's the sole cause for extra melanin. I'm not saying it isn't a factor, but I seem to recall Kathy Love saying that it took generations to breed the dark overwash out of her line of okeetees. Regardless, it's just one of the factors that can add to the "wild" look.
 
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Dang Jen, it looks like it swallowed a Ball Park frank! :eek1:
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LOL Cav, that's because the poor little thing was SOOOO skinny! That is 2 live small pinks. Next day, no lump whatsoever. Nobody in my house starves, couldn't you tell??? ROFLMAO! :grin01:
 
Something like this, Kevin? It may not be "ugly" enough lol but you can definately see the "striping" on this guy...

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Here are my three Wild Caughts. The first one is Goldy and he definitely has the striping on him. The second one is Nugget and he is a young guy but more a miami-ish type and nicely colored. Both of these were caught in Northern Florida. The third one is a Wild Caught Anery that I purchased from Don S. just a few weeks ago. He was caught in the Okeechobee area of Florida. Those two pictures are ones Don took, right now the boy just shed and is doing his amorous activities with a CB anery girl. Will take new pics of him in a bit.
 

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The head on the w/c Anery is really unusual looking (or mebbe it's just 'cuz it's so close lol)...nice snake, Dianne
 
The eyes on that anery are really striking against his brown tones Dianne! Is he himself wild caught or was he bred from wild coaught? How often fo wild aneries turn up?
 
:crazy02: I have been such a snob to release any Okeetee with the slightest stripping, tipping or melanin and feed off any hatchlings that show such traits to kings. And people want them?
 
Only if they've got a whole lot! No sense getting a homely snake when you could have butt ugly :crazy02:
 
:cheers: I agree with you all the way..so, any breeders working with un-naturally dark cultivars? I wouldn't mind haveing a few "butt-uglys." But with that snakes contrast I'm almost tempted to give it a more flattering name..how dose 'tiger corn' strike you? :rolleyes:
 
I'll be breeding this pair again this year, probably for the last time. The female is my first cornsnake, a '95 wildcaught. The male zigzag is an F1 from a pair of wc normals w/ partial zigzag. I got 22 hatchlings last year, none with any zigzag pattern. I've never kept any of her babies over the years so don't know how they turn out. I do plan on keeping at least one this year, just because.
 
Gardenmum

that is the weirdest anry A I ever seen he has red in his blotches on his head he is real pretty
 
Would you say, then, that if a snake exhibits the dark longitudinal (sp?) stripes that it is most likely wild caught? I have an adult male that I bought last year as an adult who has very prominent dark stripes.
 
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