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Are candy canes a endangered species?

Duh, this thread made me laugh and its because of breeders who breed and sell half ass amel corns they call candy canes and there a few breeders who actually breed for good candy canes. SMR has nice Candy cane stock and Russel at corn snake source forum has some of the best I have seen IMO
 
And if you can't afford a peppermint (Carol has them, and nice ones), then you can look for a GOOD candycane (Carol has those too, and nice ones!).
 
Have to agree there, when you find a crisp red and white old fashioned candycane, then all those amels labeled as candycanes no longer cut it. The only visual CC stock I have are of SMR lineage, but are f1s in a vanishing pattern project, so I haven't posted pics because they are not true CC. Russel's stock is luscious too.
They were very popular back in the early 80s when they were the hot new thing (and started out at $1000), but like many morphs they were overproduced and new morphs came along, or they got outcrossed into other projects and were kind of forgotten about.
These days there seems to be an orange CC and a red CC so one should be rather specific about which version they want.
 
dave partington said:
Have to agree there, when you find a crisp red and white old fashioned candycane, then all those amels labeled as candycanes no longer cut it. The only visual CC stock I have are of SMR lineage, but are f1s in a vanishing pattern project, so I haven't posted pics because they are not true CC. Russel's stock is luscious too.
They were very popular back in the early 80s when they were the hot new thing (and started out at $1000), but like many morphs they were overproduced and new morphs came along, or they got outcrossed into other projects and were kind of forgotten about.
These days there seems to be an orange CC and a red CC so one should be rather specific about which version they want.
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I have a couple of orange CCs temporarily living with Kathy.
Much much prettier than you would ever expect an amel to be!
 
I got to thinking about Carol's (lowbellyreptiles.com) peppermints, and even her amels het cinder, and thinking about breeding those with red candycane to produce a redder candycane...but I'll leave that for someone else...
 
dave partington said:
I got to thinking about Carol's (lowbellyreptiles.com) peppermints, and even her amels het cinder, and thinking about breeding those with red candycane to produce a redder candycane...but I'll leave that for someone else...
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I like that idea, omg, I might consider breeding my candycane male now, but that's like years from now, he is still a baby.
 
airenlow said:
To many it's not worth the years of selective breeding to make a $30 snake.
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And that is exactly why so few work with this morph. I've gone to shows trying to get 40 dollars for my babies only to find candy canes advertised on other tables for 30. And people saying exactly that, that oh, they can get the exact same thing for 30 dollars on so and so's table.

The other problem is when you breed two candy canes together, you still get babies that eventually gain more orange and yellow and look more like an amel as adults. Very few of a clutch ever stay RED with a bright white background. So you hate to mark them up and end up dissapointing half your customers!

Third, I can never get more than half the clutch to ever eat frozen thawed pinks! So every year I keep thinking of dropping them entirely or just letting the old adults die off. But so far the old adults are still alive...the male from Kathy Love, and the females are from Rich Z. So it's a pain for me economically to struggle so hard with this line, only get half the babies feeding, and only four or five meet MY standard for being keepers and getting slapped the label of Candy Cane. And then I give em away for thirty bucks!

So frankly it's really becoming an in house project. I just wholesale everything and keep the best for myself. This year I'll try to be a little more nice and sell a few from home thanks to Ship Your Reptiles being an outlet for me to get my corns to the public. As I can't swing the high cost of a table at NARBC Tinley.
 

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This makes me think, is there away to artificially raise the market value? take for instance a good way to boost an economy would be to have the media lie and say its a good economy. there by giving confidence in that broken economy. what if a seller just changed the name of his or her candy canes?
 
airenlow said:
The only other option is Amel...which go for $10-20.
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I mean some other way to inflate market value. sorry that was just an example.

If I remember correctly, salmon snow was coined by jeff from jmg. I was also told in the begging this was just a way to raise prices. obviously I know now, they are different genetically

THIS IS NOT A DIGG ON JEFF

I am just saying, I remember hearing that they were no different genetically and that it was just a sells pitch.
 
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