Are these Caramels? (Warning: feeding pics)

[abell82]

A few days ago, someone posted pics of thier corns, and I was informed what I thought appeared to be a Caramel was more likely to be be a classic with caramelish like appearance. Now I am well aware that Caramels are highly variable, and colors appear differently on different monitors sooo...

So here are mine...
are these both Caramels or...

 

[SteelJawEmily]

Regardless of what they are, they are gorgeous!

 

[Jenstar]

The first one looks like my Hypo het Caramel. The second one definitely looks like a Caramel. They are both beautiful.

 

[whoty]

imo,i think the first is a normal and the 2nd may be caramel or goldust. But most caramels I've seen saddles were darker though. Just my 2cent though.

 

[Susan]

The first one is questionable. It MAY be a caramel, but it does look just a touch too red in the saddles, IMO. The second one actually looks more like an amber or a golddust, but definitely homozygous caramel.

 

[torsten]

The first one looks a bit like a buf...:sidestep: Definitely doesn't look Homo Caramel to me though.

The second one however looks REALLY nice, definitely homo Caramel (Or a similar gene) and probably something else by the looks of it!

 

[diamondlil]

I'd say normal and amber, personally.

 

[Nanci]

I don't have any idea but that second snake is gorgeous!!!

 

[bitsy]

I'm voting Normal and GoldDust.

 

[P-eversole]

The first snake looks just like my caramel het amel, anery male. The second one looks kind of like an ultra amber, either way , its very nice.

 

[abell82]

Quite a variety of guesses. Anyone else?

Maybe a pic of the two together?

 

[TandJ]

Heres my one girl het Amber Amel.. Her saddles are very broad..

Heres one of my rootbeers, not het for Caramel..

 

[Talinea]

The first one is a normal or dark hypo imho, way too much red. The second... something hom caramel.

 

[GillianC]

I personally think that the first one can't be anything but a classic. You said that caramels are highly variable - so are all the other morphs, especially classics. I think it has too much black to be a hypo, but then again I suppose only breeding would tell you for sure.

As for the second snake, I agree with everyone who says it's definitely homozygous caramel, and possibly something else. I love how it's almost a gold color. Really stunning!

Either way, they're both beautiful animals.

 

[Reptileman81]

I believe I said before to the first snake not being a caramel. It is just a normal classic corn. I might even believe it to have hets. Most of my normals with hets have been close to its colors.

The other I am saying it is a gold dust or a amber maybe. Could even have some blood in it. Could we see some pics of its head and belly.

 

[abell82]

I believe I said before to the first snake not being a caramel. It is just a normal classic corn. I might even believe it to have hets. Most of my normals with hets have been close to its colors.

The other I am saying it is a gold dust or a amber maybe. Could even have some blood in it. Could we see some pics of its head and belly.

Umm,... Really?... I have never posted her before, except in this thread. I don't see where you posted in this thread before, unless you have an alter ego?
Also, the first post has a pic of the males head? What more are you looking for?

Anyway the only way to figure out what she is, would truly seem to be by breeding her, so...

:laugh01:

 

[TandJ]

I believe the second one, thats a definant homo caramel, is an Amber, the colouration seem subtly off and different to me to be a Goldust.. Heavens knows I have seen a lot of Goldust first hand, thanks to Stephen, ( probably around 30 Goldust at least ) I do realize that ultra based morphes can vary greatly, but I have not seen much of a varience in Goldust with the exception of other peoples ultra/mel breeding stock looking different than what I have seen as a "normal" looking ultra/mel generally looks like...

Regardless of what you have there, I wish you a lot of luck with this breeding.. If there is amel involved with the caramel, your going to know whether or not you have goldust or amber no problem..

Regards.. Tim of T and J

 

[Reptileman81]

Umm,... Really?... I have never posted her before, except in this thread. I don't see where you posted in this thread before, unless you have an alter ego?
Also, the first post has a pic of the males head? What more are you looking for?

Anyway the only way to figure out what she is, would truly seem to be by breeding her, so...

:laugh01:

Sorry your right I never did I meant to awhile ago lol. I didnt see the pic of the yellow ones head now I do. What I meant was a pic of its eyes. Are they green. If so its a gold dust. Could be a ultra amber. Does it have belly checkers or is it plan. Could be some blood in it.

But yes pretty much the only way is to do breeding trials.

 

[abell82]

Here are eye pics, and belly shots of the male.

Whatever they may be the female laid some good eggs last week. So if everything goes well,
I'll have some babies in August to help keep me from buying anything at Daytona!

 

[Buzzard]

Normal(pretty sure) and an Amber? Something with Hypo in it. Thats my first impressions.