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Back from the brink
- Thread starter Carinata
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Roy Munson
New member
I dunno...
Yeah, the kid exaggerated his "credentials", and his posting style has been defensive, and sometimes hostile. BUT, I'm not willing to write him off as a troll, or at least not a pure troll anyway. He's a kid who obviously knows SOMETHING about snakes, and he's a little too proud and confident in what he's learned. He seems to desperately want to prove that as an amateur herper he's at least in the same league as his elders around here. A pure troll would only be here to waste our time and cause disruption. If the kid has done that, I think he did so inadvertently (for the most part).
I'm the mod who gave him that 30-day suspension. That's a harsh penalty for a first-time offense, so don't think I'm siding with the kid or asking for special treatment for him.
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Snakemaster24:
I have some advice for you, and I hope you take it if you decide you want to be a constructive and respected member here:
1. Be yourself. We have some REAL experts here (and no, I'm not in that number). There's no need to inflate your credentials or accomplishments. Let your knowledge stand for itself.
2. Remember that this is a discussion board, not an argument board. You should avoid posting your comments as if you are "schooling" other members. It's a simple fact that people don't always respond well to being lectured, particularly by children. If you feel that someone is wrong, or that their assessment of your opinions is inaccurate, discuss it civilly.
3. Read the rules that are stickied in the "New Member" forum. If you follow them, you should be able to stay out of trouble. One of the most important rules is the one against inflammatory posting. There are real gray areas to this, and if we enforced the rule as strongly as possible, this place would have few un-banned members left. But generally, if you post as if you were having a discussion with a respected friend, you should be ok.
As Pootie Tang's father used to tell him: "You have to have respect to get respect, Pootie Tang!"
Good luck.
Yeah, the kid exaggerated his "credentials", and his posting style has been defensive, and sometimes hostile. BUT, I'm not willing to write him off as a troll, or at least not a pure troll anyway. He's a kid who obviously knows SOMETHING about snakes, and he's a little too proud and confident in what he's learned. He seems to desperately want to prove that as an amateur herper he's at least in the same league as his elders around here. A pure troll would only be here to waste our time and cause disruption. If the kid has done that, I think he did so inadvertently (for the most part).
I'm the mod who gave him that 30-day suspension. That's a harsh penalty for a first-time offense, so don't think I'm siding with the kid or asking for special treatment for him.
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Snakemaster24:
I have some advice for you, and I hope you take it if you decide you want to be a constructive and respected member here:
1. Be yourself. We have some REAL experts here (and no, I'm not in that number). There's no need to inflate your credentials or accomplishments. Let your knowledge stand for itself.
2. Remember that this is a discussion board, not an argument board. You should avoid posting your comments as if you are "schooling" other members. It's a simple fact that people don't always respond well to being lectured, particularly by children. If you feel that someone is wrong, or that their assessment of your opinions is inaccurate, discuss it civilly.
3. Read the rules that are stickied in the "New Member" forum. If you follow them, you should be able to stay out of trouble. One of the most important rules is the one against inflammatory posting. There are real gray areas to this, and if we enforced the rule as strongly as possible, this place would have few un-banned members left. But generally, if you post as if you were having a discussion with a respected friend, you should be ok.
As Pootie Tang's father used to tell him: "You have to have respect to get respect, Pootie Tang!"
Good luck.
airenlow
hope is not a strategy
Terrible movie!
Roy Munson
New member
Saffleur
Squamata Serpentes
Terrible movie!
-looks for my belt with which to get all pootie-fu on you-
airenlow
hope is not a strategy
Great movie! Sa da tay!
It probably doesn't help that I was only like 15 or 16 when it came out. Don't Be a Menace is still my favorite ghetto movie of all time!
"And that's what God expects from His sheep, here at the Greater Ebenezer New Revival Tree of Life Institutional Double Rock on the Side of the Road to Jericho Missionary Baptist Church of Zion" :laugh:
Jay@PJCReptiles
"Quality Before Quantity"
"Pootie Tang in Sine Your Pitty on the Runny Kine."
Roy Munson said:
Saffleur said:
airenlow said:
"See, my damie, Pootie Tang don't wa-da-tah to the shama cow... 'cause thats a cama cama leepa-chaiii, dig?"
Jay
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snakemom1961
Spring is here!
I apparently missed all of his other posts. All I know is he was hardly given the chance to show he'd changed before others jumped all over him and probably made him feel he had to defend hisself.
Sure he may have lied about his credentials at the zoo, but he is 14 and probably wanted to try and fit in a bit better. I'd be willing to give him a chance and hope he does become a decent member of the forum
Sure he may have lied about his credentials at the zoo, but he is 14 and probably wanted to try and fit in a bit better. I'd be willing to give him a chance and hope he does become a decent member of the forum
LBoz
Original Curmudgeon
Snakemom, young David did actually post an apology here:
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74843&page=9
I'd also like to see him start over. Dean posted the very easy rules to being a respected member on the above thread, I think on page 8. I'm hoping David will come back again and be a part of the forum. The young people of today are our future herp experts of tomorrow!
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74843&page=9
I'd also like to see him start over. Dean posted the very easy rules to being a respected member on the above thread, I think on page 8. I'm hoping David will come back again and be a part of the forum. The young people of today are our future herp experts of tomorrow!
Drizzt80
Dakota Corns
The young "mans" behavior upon returning from his involuntary vacation was not any different than when he left. Almost word for word many of the same statements were made before and after. :shrugs: Good luck to him, he's had two chances already.
D80
Russell
New member
I totally disagree! It shows an intolerance for others like yourself to act in this way. BUT! Do you notice people still willing to give you the benefit of being able to apologize and turn it around? This thread is not out of hand, it is merely people expressing part of what I'm sure is ONLY a part of what they want to say but can only say within the boundaries of the rules! Even at your age, if I had acted like that and my folks found out, I'd expect a good thrashing!
So no, I don't think this should be deleted at all. Over time it will be forgotten as it gets buried and left alone. Sorta like a scab, if you keep picking at it, it won't heal. But now YOU have the opportunity to walk away from this and go on, I HOPE, as a humbled individual WILLING to learn and not be rude and obnoxious! The speed of this whole incident being put behind you really depends totally on YOUR behavior from this point on. Think on these things. You act up, I'm sure there will be someone to call you to the carpet for it. Expect that out of life! Behave yourself, and people will think nice things. Not everyone is going to be so willing to forgive and forget and treat you as you are, an imperfect human being as each and every one of us are!
Good grief, sounds like I'm preaching! LOL! My hope is that you learn from it and change. I'm willing to let go. But if you keep acting up, I'm also willing to put you to the curb for it like everyone else.
Jay@PJCReptiles
"Quality Before Quantity"
Nanci
Alien Lover
They don't do that here.
ghosthousecorns
Well-known member
I just noticed chemical69 is banned and a chemical96 has joined So much for listening to Dean's advice hmmm:toiletgra
So much for listening to Dean's advice hmmm:toiletgraRoy Munson
New member
I just noticed chemical69 is banned and a chemical96 has joined
Well, a "report post" would have been more helpful to the mod team than this post, but fortunately, I noticed this as well. The chemical96 profile has been permanently-banned. Since Susan was the mod to originally suspend chemical69, I'll let her decide the fate of that account...
ghosthousecorns
Well-known member
Dean - I noticed 96 was already banned so I left it at that :shrugs: besides I didn't see any real offensive posts by him - it was the principle of the thing that he had blatantly ignored the post you made on here earlier and started the sock account.. Here is what you had posted
Roy Munson
New member
Sorry, Jen-- I didn't mean to sound like I was reprimanding you! You're right... I probably sent a mixed signal about the appropriate reaction to sock accounts.
This naughty little boy made another account after "96" was banned. The fact that he makes the sock accounts obvious proves that this is just a masturbatory game for the sad little tyke. Maybe his mommy blocks porn on his computer, and this is his only remaining outlet. Who can say? :nope:
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