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Ball Python troubles..

Dave, don't play innocent.

And Dave, why are you scolding me for asking for people to PM me, when not 5 minutes ago you were PM'ing AliCat? Just saying.....


LOL
Nice police work!! Sort of like do as I say but not as I do!! huh.

But I didn't say take it to PM or call like you have many time before.

AliCat37, I'm sorry your thread went off topic but you did get a good answer to your question from Meg. She's a good cookie.

I was told a while back to "'just ask him"' so trying to see how he works with the animals at Outback without me being rude I guess didn't work and other odd things I see.
Oh well. So much for trying but I think I'll start posting ...more!


Good night all.
 
LOL
Nice police work!! Sort of like do as I say but not as I do!! huh.

But I didn't say take it to PM or call like you have many time before.

AliCat37, I'm sorry your thread went off topic but you did get a good answer to your question from Meg. She's a good cookie.

I was told a while back to "'just ask him"' so trying to see how he works with the animals at Outback without me being rude I guess didn't work and other odd things I see.
Oh well. So much for trying but I think I'll start posting ...more!


Good night all.

Dave, I've seen you do it before, don't act like you're innocent. Dave, what do you want to know. I will gladly answer any questions, give whatever help I can. All I ask for is a little respect in return. I do prefer to talk on the phone that way I can clean cages, feed, or pack boxes while I talk.
 
Dave, I've seen you do it before, don't act like you're innocent. Dave, what do you want to know. I will gladly answer any questions, give whatever help I can. All I ask for is a little respect in return. I do prefer to talk on the phone that way I can clean cages, feed, or pack boxes while I talk.

LOL Now this is down right funny!!

Prove what you claim!!!

You can pull up my old posts and thread and I will of yours.
We'll see who does the "innocent act"

But I was seeing if I could get a answer(s) from you that wouldn't be "cookie cutter' ones. I don't see that will be possible now. Maybe one day tho.
 
LOL Now this is down right funny!!

Prove what you claim!!!

You can pull up my old posts and thread and I will of yours.
We'll see who does the "innocent act"

But I was seeing if I could get a answer(s) from you that wouldn't be "cookie cutter' ones. I don't see that will be possible now. Maybe one day tho.

Cookie cutter answers? Go ahead, Dave, shoot me a question.
 
I'm not entirely sure how this thread turned into an argument. I could have asked this question on the BP forum, but every time I go there, I feel like someone is talking down to meyour just reading it wrong, its a very tight knit group over there, and some people just spit out what needs to be said, and sometimes the person reading it see's it as a negative tone, when its not intended, so I decided to ask here. I respect everyone's opinions, but since David works with ball pythons daily, I don't understand why everyone is fighting about the feeding live thing. Ball pythons do eat live a lot more consistently than not, I just wanted to know if the amount of time my ball has been off feed is normal,yes, it is normal for them to go off feed this time of year, if he's not eating by late march, or loses noticable weight, i'd consider a vet visit to see if their are any underlying problems which could explain why hes not eating and if I should continue offering f/t, or try live to elicit a feeding response.

as for what to do:

you can try a few techniques for feeding them F/T, you can sent the room for a day before hand, just thaw out a rat, place it on top or next to the enclosure if you can, or simply leave it in over night.

if that doesnt work, scent the room again next week, and offer a brained rat, i just take a knife, poke it through the skull, and squeeze out some brain, the extra stink sometimes makes them go crazy lol.

you can try with a rat that has been frozen, thawed, and re frozen multiple times, it will stink more that way, but may result in an explosion.

or, instead of doing the floating rat dance, grab it mid body on the back, with some tongs, and "drive" it around the cage on its belly, as if you were playing with a toy car.

if none of these work, there is a very safe way to feed live, grab the rat by the tail with tongs, and dangle it over the snake like you would with a frozen. from my experience in doing this, the rat will be so busy being curled up attacking the tongs, that you can put the back of it facing the snake. and if you really want, you can take a pair of wire cutters and snip the spinal cord right at the base of the skull as soon as the snake strikes. this should paralyze (in most cases kill) the rat instantly, making it harmless.

thats all i can think of, so good luck, and remember to not worry yourself if he still refuses to eat
 
LOL
MY above post is in two parts
The first part you ignored.
The second part you didn't grasp the point. lol

I'll make them shorter next time. :D
 
LOL
MY above post is in two parts
The first part you ignored.
The second part you didn't grasp the point. lol

I'll make them shorter next time. :D

I's sorta hard to understand what you're saying sometimes, so please re- word your post. :shrugs:
 
our Balls in Bulgaria also stops eating every year until now,many months but still having their exercises everyday.I`v watched them at least 50 times they make their exercise like push ups for their muscles in their cage, although they are not eaten for many months.I even watched the female python to teach the male how to exercise because when we buy it,he was so depressed of these small boxes, where they held him. when we moved him into a large terrarium he directly reborn.
 
our Balls in Bulgaria also stops eating every year until now,many months but still having their exercises everyday.I`v watched them at least 50 times they make their exercise like push ups for their muscles in their cage, although they are not eaten for many months.I even watched the female python to teach the male how to exercise because when we buy it,he was so depressed of these small boxes, where they held him. when we moved him into a large terrarium he directly reborn.

what do you mean reborn? as in running around all day? if so, thats not a good sign, ball pythons like to cram themselves in tight spaces all day

a hiding ball python, is a happy ball python
 
what do you mean reborn? as in running around all day? if so, thats not a good sign, ball pythons like to cram themselves in tight spaces all day

a hiding ball python, is a happy ball python

Holy mother of christ! Common sense has shown it's rarely seen face!!!!
 
Still no luck with getting him to eat..

I tried a few weeks back with a rat pup, and he just curled around it and made a nest for it >.>
He's got a 2 week old rat in his tub now that he still shows no interest in, and I even rubbed a frozen ASF on it.

Now I have this baby rat that I'm thinking is going to end up as a pet, seeing as I can't bring myself to kill rats myself. I like them too much.
 
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