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Bloodred, Butter Mot, Reverse etc etc

Marcel Poots

Marcel Poots

Young, handsom member
Same old same old...

For some perhaps still interesting :crazy02:
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Controlled chaos:
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Motley overdosis:

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I'am not at home, please come back on different occasion:
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Jesse is not all that impressed by the Bloodred. He thinks the 'normal' is cool:
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Lovely snakes.

But to be honest that feeding picture with multiple adults is nothing but chaos... NOT a controlled situation like you would think. These animals are sooo unpredictable, and taking the risk for a "pretty picture" is not worth the animals life in my opinion. Your lucky you got away with it... this time.

Just look where the other snakes tail is... lyring straight across the rat which is half way in another snakes mouth... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Tula_Montage said:
Lovely snakes.
.. NOT a controlled situation like you would think. These animals are sooo unpredictable,
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Thanks for the heads up. But believe me I do control the situation. I have kept Burms, Retics and anaconda's. I do know about feeding frenzy. And I know the temperament of each and every one of my corns.

I would not dare pulling tricks like that with snakes like my Monty:
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Your lucky you got away with it... this time.
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I have been getting away with it for quite some time. I have been keeping corns in pairs and trios for over 15 years. I have been feeding like that for the same period. I am not telling people should feed them together. I have corns that I feed separate because they finish their mouse quicker than the rest and they go try and steal the mouse from another one. Thanks for the warning though..
 
They are all lovely snakes! I'll bet Jesse is at least mildly impressed with Monty!
 
NOT a controlled situation like you would think. These animals are sooo unpredictable
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Elle I do think Marcel Poots (Is this your real name, I am not in the know) has a long and wide history with snakes of all kinds.
I think he knows his corns far better than anyone else on this forum and knows of the risks and does his best to avoid them and seems to be doing that.
Maybe having a pop at someone with little experience doing this is justified but I have full confidence that Marcel is doing the right thing for him.
I do things differently to alot of people and they may be wrong but its worked for me for 3 years without problems.
Just hang fire a bit more in future Elle, weve seen how it turns out.
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Wow Ajran! beautiful snakes, although the 'feeding together' shot did alarm me, not having seen that practise before. I understand that co-habbing is more common on the continent.
What is Monty?
 
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Wow Ajran! beautiful snakes, although the 'feeding together' shot did alarm me, not having seen that practise before. I understand that co-habbing is more common on the continent.
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Yep, it's Marcel. And my last name is Poots (for E.Crassus). Why would these pictures alarm you? I stand by to watch over if they do continue to feed on their own mouse. If one finishes early I take it out and wait untill the other has finished it's meal aswell. Then I place them back together. No problems whatsoever. And when they do get tangled on the same mouse.... so what? We are talking about corns here. I grab the pair and and unwind them. What people do forget here is that I have a very small collection. So I take time for each snake to watch them down their meal without problems (ingesting particles substrate etc). It's not that I throw in a few mice and go watch TV or something. Here a picture of few weeks ago when all corns where in feeding frenzy because of warm weather in Holland. I unwrapped them... no problem...
 

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Oh, Monty is a Burmese python. Python molurus bivittatus.

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Here, and again.. please don't do this at home kids. Burmese pythons can and will kill you in a few minutes when they wrap around you neck.. I took here out and kept her around my neck so I could stand on a scale with her. She was 45 kilo (close to 100Lbs) and 4.5 meter (14 feet) there..
 
What I mean is, as I haven't enough experience, I know I wouldn't be confident enough to feed or house my snakes together, I was not implying critisism of you.
How you keep your snakes is your choice, after all.
 
Thank goodness you are not a novice... I Just wouldn't do it...
I always watch over the animals whilst feeding, even when they are on their own, I just don't get fed up watching them LOL.
 
ok, so the deal on here is that 'experienced' people can break the rules, and no-one can give a negative comment, but heaven forbid any newbie should do the same?
Again, your choice, your snakes, your life
 
Thats about the gist of it diamonddill :grin01: .
No of course even experts make mistakes but I suppose it is their experience and long history of keeping reptiles and doing it their way without problems which gives them "more protection".
When I was a hatchling reptile keeper, and I admit I used to co-habit my snakes like Marcel, I got absolutely destroyed and ripped apart for doing it.
I know its an unfair situation cause everyone can make mistakes but thats how it is I guess, makes people strive to be one of the "top dogs" on here.
Just my opinion, take it or leave it.
 
E.Crassus said:
Thats about the gist of it diamonddill :grin01: .
No of course even experts make mistakes but I suppose it is their experience and long history of keeping reptiles and doing it their way without problems which gives them "more protection".
When I was a hatchling reptile keeper, and I admit I used to co-habit my snakes like Marcel, I got absolutely destroyed and ripped apart for doing it.
I know its an unfair situation cause everyone can make mistakes but thats how it is I guess, makes people strive to be one of the "top dogs" on here.
Just my opinion, take it or leave it.
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Novice or top dog, we are all reptile keepers... With our own methods and opinions. Things work for some, things work for others. Some things just don't work at all...
 
diamondlil said:
ok, so the deal on here is that 'experienced' people can break the rules, and no-one can give a negative comment, but heaven forbid any newbie should do the same?
Again, your choice, your snakes, your life
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First of all, I am far from expert. Second, the rules you talk about.. who wrote them? I choose simply to keep my snakes by other rules. And I did not see the initial comment as a negative comment like you describe it. Keeping snakes together is not easy. I keep all my snakes up untill at least a year of age alone. Then when they are good growers (which is an indication that they are without stress) and good feeders I test to see if they can continue to do well in a cage with another corn. Sometimes this is not the case. One stops feeding, one becomes aggressive, one tries continuely to escape the cage etc etc. Then I place the snake back alone. But in my 'small' experience corns are very mellow snakes and tolerate company very well. I have had a normal pair that would stop eat as soon as I place them apart. I have no explanation for that. :cheers:
 
Ok. I'm glad it works for you, but have read so many posts when people trying the same thing are told in very strong terms that they must stop right away, and that they shouldn't ignore advice.........
 
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Ok. I'm glad it works for you, but have read so many posts when people trying the same thing are told in very strong terms that they must stop right away, and that they shouldn't ignore advice.........
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I agree when it comes to hatchling or non-adult corns.

Over here it is more common to house corns together then separate, and without problems.

If mine are adult I want to co-habitat the girls who have no problems with that, in a large natural viv, but if it doesnt work they will get their own tub each.
But I would feed them separated, I feel safer that way.

It's funny how the rules can change with the continents; I've seen it with aquarium fish too. I have a very empty fishtank compared to american 'rules'.

Both ways seem to work.

But I think you really have to be experienced to decide if you can house your corns together or not, so the main rule of not housing together is good imo.

(Here in europe a lot of people still think it is not done to house snakes in tubs/racks, we also have different vivs *front-doors*).
 
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(Here in europe a lot of people still think it is not done to house snakes in tubs/racks, we also have different vivs *front-doors*).
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Yep, rack systems are rare in Holland. I would not mind having one though.. :santa:
 
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