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breed corn or not ?

simcorn

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hi i have two corn snakes and they are both 3ft long,18months old and they are both 120 grams should i breed them or not ?
 
I would even wait until the female weighs 300 grams. 18 months is also a little young, for a male it is possible, but a female should be 3 years old.

Greets Tania
 
but what if a female is 3 ft long 300grams but under 3 years old..like 2 and a half?
The most important part is the 300 grams, this is because of weight lost during the whole breeding season.
I think any snake over two years and 300 grams would be fine to breed.

( Of course the 3,3's is not a hard and fast rule...If I had a female that ate well , was 2.5' , 250 grams and 5 years old, I would feel OK breeding her...some snakes never get very long or very big...you also want to avoid making your snake obese, they start getting hips where their vent is and for the most part these don't go away.)
 
Are you even ready to care for the babies? Why do you want to breed them? Would you have homes to sell them to and if not are you going to be able to take care of maybe over 20 new babies?
 
The three year guideline for females is more to make sure that they're fully physically mature and capable of producing eggs without harming themselves. They might look large enough when younger, but whether they're ready or not physiologically, is not possible to tell. As most Corns mature around three years, that's the age that's most likely to be favourable.

After all, a twelve year old human female can have a baby but it's probably not a very good idea.
 
Are you even ready to care for the babies? Why do you want to breed them? Would you have homes to sell them to and if not are you going to be able to take care of maybe over 20 new babies?

Sounded like the point of your post. :duck:

The guy asked a simple question about whether or not it is ok to breed a small/young female. The simple answer is no, and some valid reasons were given. He doesn't need a psych evaluation too.

People on this board obviously have the snake's best interest at heart but I don't feel like we always need to jump on people that ask simple new-comer questions. This tends to chase people off in my opinion.
 
It is a valid point that she brings up. Whether you can and whether you should breed a snake are two different questions that must be taken into consideration at the same time. I don't think NFS07 was jumping on the person at all. Just my two cents.
 
Sounded like the point of your post. :duck:

The guy asked a simple question about whether or not it is ok to breed a small/young female. The simple answer is no, and some valid reasons were given. He doesn't need a psych evaluation too.

People on this board obviously have the snake's best interest at heart but I don't feel like we always need to jump on people that ask simple new-comer questions. This tends to chase people off in my opinion.

Well all my questions were points and questions that the OP should answer otherwise we are going to have even more "HELP I HAVE BABIES!" posts. If taken the time to think things out many people would save themselves the problems of having babies. Not everyone is a breeder or ready for what breeding really takes. That was the point of my post, everyone else already answered No. The OP is just going to wait until they are old enough or big enough to breed and then try it without thinking everything out. Maybe its just me but short posts like that with little detail of plans or anything but age and weight bother me. Does he even know the sex of the snakes?
 
Have you noticed that he hasn't responded at all? I actually agree with your concerns, but I feel like we need to have a better "canned response" to questions like these. Do we have a "breeding FAQ" at all? If so, maybe we can point new comers with questions about breeding to it. I'm just trying to figure out how to be a little more light hearted and not scare ppl away.
 
It's a reality check. If not hearing what you wanted to hear is enough reason to leave a forum, then you were probably not that dedicated to learning about your snakes to begin with. I don't see anything wrong with asking a question or two to make sure a person considering breeding snakes has thought it through. While some people take time to research it and prepare themselves, there are others who I feel it might be better to discourage. Like the ones who think they will make money and it will be easy sell the babies. If you think you can just go to a petstore and they will buy them all, think again. If they don't already have their own supplier (which they probably do) they will at most take 1-3. Before breeding it is good to know there is a demand out there for what you are about to produce... Another thing I see people saying is "my friends all want a snake: - really? You have 16 friends that will take a corn snake? Or the question that irritates the heck out of me "how much money can I make?" If it's your first clutch and you are not breeding a high end pair of snakes you are MUCH more likely to spend more money on them than you will make. They will need to eat, they will need to be individually housed, each one needs a bowl and hide and heat source and you may have to keep them for several months. Still want to do it? Go into it with your eyes open. If you truly love corns it will be one of the most rewarding things you ever do. But not in a financial sense.
 
Well all my questions were points and questions that the OP should answer otherwise we are going to have even more "HELP I HAVE BABIES!" posts. If taken the time to think things out many people would save themselves the problems of having babies. Not everyone is a breeder or ready for what breeding really takes. That was the point of my post, everyone else already answered No. The OP is just going to wait until they are old enough or big enough to breed and then try it without thinking everything out. Maybe its just me but short posts like that with little detail of plans or anything but age and weight bother me. Does he even know the sex of the snakes?

yes i do know the sex cause i got them probed when they were 6 months old and they were male and female and if i havent responded quickly then well its not my fault i have other things that need to be done
 
Its risky to probe a cornsnake under about a year old, poping is usually how its done. If they are normal corns you will be lucky to get ten dollars each for them unless you sell them individually wich could take a while. I don't think anyone is trying to come off like a jerk but there are a lot of things to think about before you decide to have a clutch for the sake of having one.
How much snake experience do you have? Will you know how to incubate the eggs and deal with the hatchlings? I know breeding sounds good in theory but the reality is there is a lot more work involved and like someone said earlier unless you have a highly saught after morph it will most likley end up costing more than you will make. If you want to do it for experience or for your love of herps then do some more research, get cathy loves book and take it from there. If you want to do it for profit it will be extremely difficult.
 
i have about 2 yrs expirience but my friend he breeds his every yr and he has got loads of snakes so he can help me and i want to do it for the expirience because i know that u do not get much money for them lol
and yes i can look after the eggs and hatchlings because he gave me loads of stuff that i can use for incubating eggs and looking after hatchlings so i am prepared thanx anyway
:)
 
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