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Can you do it without the Brumation?

Arpolis

Arpolis

Corn Snake Breeder
Hello there all!

I have a question about breeding Corns. I have a female snow and an Amel Male that I would like to breed and then branch off from there. MY wife does not like the idea of putting the snakes into Brumation. "She thinks it is mean to do so." I understand the benefits and also the problems that may happen but here are my main questions.

1) Can you breed snakes well without the Brumation period taking place?
2) If so then assuming you have two snakes that have never been cold before and kept in cozy little cages. When in the year do you try and mate the two or does it even matter?
3) finally are there any tricks to getting the snakes "in the mood"?

Thanks in advance for any and all help with this subject.
 
Breeding without brumation is accomplished very successfully every year. Your chances might be a little lower just because they will both be unbrumated virgins. I would still introduce them during the normal corn breeding season...late February through May-ish. There are many tricks to get snakes in the mood. Introducing them during a storm, misting the breeding cage, putting another male's shed skin in with them, etc. Hope this helps...good luck!
 
So lets say that if you are trying to play the market and work around other breeders in the area. Can you mate at other times of the year. Like having ready hatchlings for christmas for instance?
 
That's more easily accomplished with brumating during the summer. It can be done, it's just more of a pain because it helps if you mimic the light cycles, too.
 
Robbie is a young buck full of piss and vinegar. I personally require brumation to be able to mate in the spring.
 
katia said:
the introducing them during a storm...does that really work? when i first read it i thought it was gonna be a joke-post!
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I have never tried it personally but have seen it mentioned many times on here...
 
i`m gonna go with...they`re just pullin our leg with the storm thing! and obviously the scented candles, because we alllllllllll know that scented candles/incense are a NO NO when you have snakes!
 
Apparently barometric pressure changes are a sign of impending rainfall and entice many reptiles, amphibians and fish to breed. Google it! :nyah:
 
Arpolis said:
So lets say that if you are trying to play the market and work around other breeders in the area. Can you mate at other times of the year. Like having ready hatchlings for christmas for instance?
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Many breeders still have available well established feeding snakes at that time of year. So it's pretty much pointless to try "working around" breeders.

I successfully bred five pairs this year without brumation, hatching 76 eggs. The only thing I found was that my breedings were a few weeks behind those who did brumate.
 
wade said:
Robbie is a young buck full of piss and vinegar. I personally require brumation to be able to mate in the spring.
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Is that because your different species, Wade:sidestep:
Sorry guys I had to say it:nyah:
*Walks away with head bowed in shame*
 
"She thinks it is mean to do so."
Throughout most of their range, corn snakes in the wild brumate. It's natural. This may not happen in south Florida, but Corns live in Kentucky, New Jersey and other places where it snows in the winter.

"So lets say that if you are trying to play the market and work around other breeders in the area."
The results of that breeding would be amel het for anery. The babies wouldn't be worth much and like someone else said, baby corn snakes are pretty much available most months of the year.

If I were you, I'd just cool them down in the winter and see what happens in the spring.

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I understand that amels will be all I get and that those are a dime a dozen. I only have these snakes because my wife likes how they look and that is pretty much all we have in our local market. I don't really plan on making any real money I just want the best possible chance for re homing all me little guys I don't keep. I'll just watch the barametric presure around march and introduce them during low presure points.
 
Living in the desert where the temps rarely ever reach constant lows during the winter, it is somestimes impossible to brumate. Some years, I just don't even bother. I've found that the major factor influencing brumation is the light cycle. While lower temps play a key role, I have successfully "wintered" my corns just by allowing them to be ruled by a natural light cycle.
 
What do you mean by a natural light cycle? Are you saying that the changes
in the position of the sun through the year did it or just the fact that they have natural light on them all the time?
 
The amount of daylight changes as the year goes on. Corns pick up on this and it can trigger natural instincts such as brumation...
 
airenlow said:
There are many tricks to get snakes in the mood. Introducing them during a storm...
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:roflmao: that made me giggle!! I always say to newbies on their introductions that they will always learn something new on here about corns no matter how much they think they already know! And it seems that I still learning something new everyday too!! Great stuff!
 
Next year I intend to try breeding corns for the first time. I'm in the Orlando area and I do not plan on brumating. If there's no success, I'll try the following year WITH brumation. Over and over again I talk to and hear of corns breeding without any planning whatsoever. The nice fellow that runs the St. Cloud Serpentarium said he once gave two young corns to a local family and a year later they had eggs...and all hatched without problems...caught everyone completely by surprise. So I'll be lurking and reading and learning till next spring :)
During a storm, eh? We have awesome storms in central FL so that shouldn't be a problem!
Nick
 
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