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Continued-What I found at the pet store!

Drizzt80 said:
Unfortunately, no it doesn't. Supposing the pet store owner is an idiot and doesn't know what he's selling. His price is going to be based on his purchase price of the snake. Typically a 100% markup (he most likely paid $20 for that snake). Now convince me his wholesaler sold him an Opal for $20. Suppose the wholesaler is an idiot. He's going to sell his product for the typical markup of 100% (he purchased it for $10). Now convince me that the supplier to the wholesaler sold an Opal for $10 . . . That's a lot of supposition . . .

Let's say the pet store owner bought it from a customer . . . IF the customer purchased it as an Opal, there's no way they sold it to the owner for $20, or even $40. IF the customer bought it somewhere else (mistakenly) as an Opal, see the above scenario. That's even more supposition . . .

OR, it's a typically high-colored, average priced, Snow. No supposition needed.

D80
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Just noticed she lives in Missouri...... based on my experience.... anything is possible. There aren't alot of breeders in the area... knowledgeable breeders even fewer... my Sunglow came from a Missouri breeder, who obviously didn't know what he had or I wouldn't have purchased Tessa for $30. :)

You may be right and it maybe simply a lovely Snow, but anything is possible in this area...

Where in Missouri are you, Candy?
 
Weebonilass said:
Just noticed she lives in Missouri...... based on my experience.... anything is possible. There aren't alot of breeders in the area... knowledgeable breeders even fewer... my Sunglow came from a Missouri breeder, who obviously didn't know what he had or I wouldn't have purchased Tessa for $30.
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Which furthers the supposition that the store owner got it from a wholesaler for $20.

Oh, I know anything is possible, but $30 for a $40-$50 snake (Amel Motley) is perfectably believable even as a non-mistake. $40 for a $100+ snake (Opal) is a little trickier to swallow. ;)

D80
 
I can definately tell you that he did not get it from a wholesaler, a younger guy brought in my corn and a real nice creamsicle to trade for a ? morph python, this is all I know about the deal that was made. Of course the trade was not even, he ended up paying something also.
 
Drizzt80 said:
Which furthers the supposition that the store owner got it from a wholesaler for $20.

Oh, I know anything is possible, but $30 for a $40-$50 snake (Amel Motley) is perfectably believable even as a non-mistake. $40 for a $100+ snake (Opal) is a little trickier to swallow. ;)

D80
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LOL Sunglows go for alot more than that around here... as I said, I got Gunn for $70, but the other two were sold for $90 and he had a waiting list at that price for the next clutch. The store bought the parents, so I was able to see them and they were both Sunglow Motleys, not "simple" Amels.

Again, the point is that alot of breeders in this area have no idea what they have. I know this shop had several they said were bloodreds and absolutely NOTHING about them said blood, but that's what the breeder swore they were, so that's what they were being sold as... if they were, they were the poorest examples of bloods I've ever seen.

As I said you are probably right, but you just never know... strange things happen all the time to other people :)
 
Weebonilass said:
LOL Sunglows go for alot more than that around here... as I said, I got Gunn for $70, but the other two were sold for $90 and he had a waiting list at that price for the next clutch. The store bought the parents, so I was able to see them and they were both Sunglow Motleys, not "simple" Amels.
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$90! Wow! I seriously can't give this girl away at $40 . . . :shrugs:
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Maybe you should buy her from me and then resell . . . ;)
D80
 
After shipping I don't think I would be able to break even on her :) Looking at them, I thinking perhaps its because your girl isn't quite as dark as came from these two adults...

Tessa... the cheap one that unfortunately wasn't never found when she escaped...

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Her full sibling, although from a different clutch....

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They are esp. striking in a tank of normals.
 
Very nice looking snake! Congrats on the great new addition :0) Can't wait to see improved pics with your digital camera :)
 
Maize411 said:
Very nice looking snake! Congrats on the great new addition :0) Can't wait to see improved pics with your digital camera :)
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Me too! I love snows, they are better than opals in my opinion. Also, could it be a bubblegum snow? Try googling it..
 
In any case that's a great looking snake! Congrats on your lucky find!!

Just my $.02...The first two pics are the Opal, the last is a snow.

They do look similar. I can't wait to see better pics of yours Candy!!

Opal 1
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Opal 2
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Snow
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Is it possible it could be a Hypo Snow? :shrugs:

And Drizzt, don't flash pictures of that girl anymore! Keep her hidden.... very hidden. :p ;)
 
Em Wright said:
Is it possible it could be a Hypo Snow?
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I'm kind of embarrassed that I didn't make that suggestion myself! Way to bring things back around Em! Coral (Hypo) Snow would be just as easily believable at $40 as opposed to being Opal.

D80
 
Of course Brent, I have seen ultramels pop up in general public for $30.. Even seen goldust for $25 a pop.. Some silly name attached to them that the breeder could not really answer what exactly they were .. Of course I have been known to whole sale some stuff when i could not get the price I wanted from joe public eithier.. :laugh::wavey::grin01::shrugs:

Regards... Tim of t and J
 
Drizzt80 said:
I'm kind of embarrassed that I didn't make that suggestion myself! Way to bring things back around Em! Coral (Hypo) Snow would be just as easily believable at $40 as opposed to being Opal.

D80
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*gasp*

We'll just say I was reading your mind.....
 
a_god_s said:
In any case that's a great looking snake! Congrats on your lucky find!!

Just my $.02...The first two pics are the Opal, the last is a snow.

They do look similar. I can't wait to see better pics of yours Candy!!

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Unfortunately no, he doesn't look like any of these beauties. His saddles are more squared off and purple with a peach blushing in the middle of the saddles. His background is white, or really more of an off white, he seems to be getting ready to shed, which may work in my favor, so when I get my digital he will be full color! And his side markings, towards his belly - the tiny ones are peach. His head is peach and his eyes are red. Oh, and his belly is checkered white.
 
I have a male coral snow that is very has bright corals, pinks, peach, yellow and white, but he doesn't look anything like him, because of the purple.

Oh, and holy cow you all are going to hate me, I also have an 08 female labeled Stonewash, but looks exactly like the picture of PJCs Platinum babies. I still haven't figured out exactly what she is either, as that is the I closest picture I have found to compare her to.
 
Well if he doesn't look like either of the two pictures that a_god_s posted then he isn't Opal either... :shrugs: He labeled the first two as Opals and the pics I've seen of Snopals are much lighter than those.

Is it possible he's a lavander and not a snow at all? Or perhaps he's a snow het for lavender that is exhibiting some of the het in his appearance? I don't know I'm just throwing out some options. :shrugs:
 
TandJ said:
Of course Brent, I have seen ultramels pop up in general public for $30.. Even seen goldust for $25 a pop.. Some silly name attached to them that the breeder could not really answer what exactly they were .. Of course I have been known to whole sale some stuff when i could not get the price I wanted from joe public eithier.. :laugh::wavey::grin01::shrugs:

Regards... Tim of t and J
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I agree with Tim....anything is possible now days.

I've had a few "snows" pop up in breedings that could be snow lavenders (aka snopals or yetti :sidestep:) or snow caramels but I didn't feel like taking the time nor energy to prove out the pos hets so they ended up getting marked snow and going to shows or wholesalers. I'm sure Rich Z does much of the same...can't see him keep back snow pos hets....
 
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