Coral Snow & Salmon Snow comparison

[Walter Smith]

Here is a shot of a Coral Snow and a comparison shot of a Coral Snow & Salmon Snow. As you can see the Coral is much more subtle in coloration.

I also tossed in a shot of a Coarl Ghost.

Walter,
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[stephen]

Interesting

The Salmon Snow looks more like the Neons I used to have where the Coral Snows the pink looks to be in the saddles. Walter have you seen the results Marsha got from breeding the two together? I saw some of her Coral/Neon Corns in person and was amazed with them

 

[Walter Smith]

The Salmon Snow looks more like the Neons I used to have where the Coral Snows the pink looks to be in the saddles. Walter have you seen the results Marsha got from breeding the two together? I saw some of her Coral/Neon Corns in person and was amazed with them

Steve,
yes I did see those. I remember a few years back when she did those breedings and I tried to aquire a couple of the offspring, but she decided not to sell any and hold them back for her self................which I couldn't blame her.
If I recall correctly, that was right before or right at the same time the Salmons hit the market to the public. The Salmons were priced at $1000 ea. at that time and I always had my eye on those since.

Well, last year was my breaking point and I got a Salmon Snow & Salmon Ghost in Daytona from Jim.

Walter
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[Caryl]

What's the genetic make up of that coral snow? Are we looking at Hypo A, strawberry, both? They're all three lovely, btw.

 

[Walter Smith]

What's the genetic make up of that coral snow? Are we looking at Hypo A, strawberry, both? They're all three lovely, btw.

Hi Caryl,
as far as I know it's Hypo A. A couple years ago, I had a Coral Snow on lone from Don Soderberg. It was a adult male and I bred him to my Anery Bloodred female...........see pic.

The entire clutch consisted of all Anery corns, which was to be expected. I held back 1.1 of the Anerys and their first breeding was last year and that's where the Coral Snow came from. Also produced in the clutch was a couple Coral Ghosts. One of which is also pictured in this thread, so that's why I'm saying Hypo A

The Salmon Snow is from the Strawberry line.

Walter
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[stephen]

Nope

Not all Dons are Homo Hypo. I dont think its known yet what produces the intense pink color:shrugs:

 

[Walter Smith]

Not all Dons are Homo Hypo.

Well, at least one seems to be considering I produced Ghosts from him

Walter
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[Caryl]

Thanks, Walter. :wink: This morph is one of those that I debated and debated, deciding I didn't have room for - and still debating anyway!

 

[iculatr]

Isn't a Coral Ghost the same as a Strawberry Anery? Per ian's vivarium....

 

[Walter Smith]

Isn't a Coral Ghost the same as a Strawberry Anery? Per ian's vivarium....

I guess it all depends on who you are asking. As far as my understanding, the Coral Snows are more selective bred for the pinks using Hypo A.
I know the Salmons I have were produced using the Strawberry trait and considering I produced Ghost corns that were grandfathered by a Coral Snow, I'd say the Coral was homo Hypo A due to the subtle coloration.

Seeing there are so many trade names for Snows that display pink coloration such as Neon, Bubblegum, Champagne, Coral, Salmon.........etc. It's really still up in the air if they are all related by the same traits, which is very possible. There are breeding trails being done by some (myself in due time) to see if some of these are the same traits but are just being called different names.

Thinking about it more and more, even breeding trails may not tell us for sure. For instance, breeding a Coral (subtle pinks) X Neon (more saturated pinks) produced some amazing looking pink Snows ( even more so than both lines alone ), but it is still not know what trait has caused the intensification of the pinks. Is it just the combination of the two or was it a certain trait???

It will take quite a few years to determine which trait is causing the extreme pink saturation for sure, especially when some breeders are already selective breeding for even more saturation and not knowing for sure what traits they are dealing with. It's possible alot of people could have been breeding Strawberry Hypos which were aquired as Hypo A way before the Strawberry trait was really known. Some Hypo A and Strawberry corns can't be told apart by the naked eye and need to be identifed by microscope. ( I'm not going to go into that now, but there is alot of info on it in the 2011 Cornsnake Morph Guide by Chuck Pritzel )

It will be a long drawn out process in my opinion.

Walter
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[iculatr]

I think this is going to be a confusing subject for a while. I think that is why I am very hesitant of using certain trade names, because the lines are so blurred. Hmmm...