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Dalek ate Fir bark! Pictures...

Thanks for understanding and taking some of the reactions with a grain of salt. You are right that people here are passionate about their animals and sometimes that passion gets the better of them I think (I know it has with me a few times!).

One thing I would definately suggest is feeding outside the viv from now on. Even putting in a paper plate does not fully remove the risk of injesting another piece of bark. I have seen snakes with paper plates pull the mice off of them into the bedding.
 
ArpeggioAngel said:
Thanks for understanding and taking some of the reactions with a grain of salt. You are right that people here are passionate about their animals and sometimes that passion gets the better of them I think (I know it has with me a few times!).

One thing I would definately suggest is feeding outside the viv from now on. Even putting in a paper plate does not fully remove the risk of injesting another piece of bark. I have seen snakes with paper plates pull the mice off of them into the bedding.
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Even in my limited experience, I have to agree with this one. Humphrey rolls around strangling the nonexistent life out of the f/t mouse. If there was a way to get bedding on the mouse, Humphrey would find it!
 
wstphal said:
Even in my limited experience, I have to agree with this one. Humphrey rolls around strangling the nonexistent life out of the f/t mouse. If there was a way to get bedding on the mouse, Humphrey would find it!
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Thats what I think Dalek would do with her mice if I would just used a paper plate. So I do have large plastic tubs I will put plenty of holes into and try feeding in that. I will just have to talk my wife into putting her yarn some where ells lol.
 
I am really glad you are still here. Please don't be afraid to ask more questions. We will do a better job next time. Probably.
 
Arpolis said:
Thats what I think Dalek would do with her mice if I would just used a paper plate. So I do have large plastic tubs I will put plenty of holes into and try feeding in that. I will just have to talk my wife into putting her yarn some where ells lol.
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Plastic tubs are cheap. Offer to upgrade your wife's yarn tub & then you can have her old one as a feeding tub!
 
He's pretty small, so even one of those cheap ziplock containers with a few holes poked in the top will work. For my little ones, I didn't even use the top, I just kept them next to me while I cleaned their vivs, and then when they were done gently placed them back in the viv.

One thing I'd like to comment on is the daily bathing your vet recommended. I'd give your guy at least 24 hours to digest before doing this. The last thing you want is a regurg, especially with a potentially sharp piece of bedding in his belly. ;)
 
I agree with Wade. I'm glad you didn't get scared off. I'm really pleased that you chose to consult a vet regarding this. It's actually a real learning experience for some of us who haven't dealt with that sort of thing. I have only read about it and what could happen.

I really hope you don't think I was being too harsh. I was only trying to advise to the best of my limited ability. Please keep us posted and good luck!

Wayne
 
LBoz said:
One thing I'd like to comment on is the daily bathing your vet recommended. I'd give your guy at least 24 hours to digest before doing this. The last thing you want is a regurg, especially with a potentially sharp piece of bedding in his belly. ;)
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Not to correct you but the vet said to give her the bath in a day or so later than today. So you are exactly right in that aspect. Since there is food in the belly I wouldn't think of stressin her out to much now.
 
So what you are saying is the she was correct in her incorrect assumption? Lori is like that.
 
Glad to see you're still with us. You're here to learn, as are most of us. You've done the right thing calling a vet. Follow his recomendations and hopefully all will be well.
 
Update

I gave Dalek a bath as the vet suggested today. She shed late last night or early this morning and the vet said it was still cool to give her that bath today as long as a wait till the afternoon or evening. She seems in high spirits just calm but still active. Here are some pics in the tub and then back in her tank.
 

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What a pretty girl!! Aside from the feeding, which as a new keeper I can't and would never hold that against you, I think you did the best possible thing. You contacted a vet, kept a cool head, didn't panic and you're following the vet's instructions. I think if inernal injuries had occured, it would be apparent by this point. Consider this a "hands on" experience...one in which you won't forget. It's easy for those without such experience to yell FIRE, but in my book you get major props for your actons. :)
To clarify, I have zero "hands on" experience with a sick or injured snake. I'll gladly knock on wood to keep it that way!
 
When she does poo, if "everything" comes out okay, you should dry it out and save it. That way, in a few years, you could look back and laugh at all this. ;)

Wayne
 
? is this it ?

Well it has been 4 days and Dalek is still in good spirits. I did find in one corner of the cage where it looks like some fresh poop & a piece of wood darker and smoother than the rest around it. This piece of bark almost had a shine on one side so it may be the piece I have been looking for. I wood suggest for anyone with this issue in the future to keep your snake in a tub with paper towel substrate or remove the substrate in the cage because this seems difficult to truly spot what we are looking for lol. So here is a pic of the piece of bark on top of a dime.
 

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Going back and looking at the first picture that piece of bark could have been it. I hope so.
 
Oh geez are we loosing our touch or what...sounds like maybe we forgot to tell you to put her in a hospital environment( clean viv with paper towel for substrate) so that you could tell if she pooped it out.

Here is hoping that is the piece. You could still change her viv to hospital environment so that you can watch to see if the piece did any damage, if that is the piece. You will be able to monitor if there is any blood in her stool and how often she is going. Maybe for a week or two just to make sure that seems to have been the piece.

Good luck and again here's hoping it is the piece and it came out damage free.
 
Asbit said:
Oh geez are we loosing our touch or what...sounds like maybe we forgot to tell you to put her in a hospital environment( clean viv with paper towel for substrate) so that you could tell if she pooped it out.

Here is hoping that is the piece. You could still change her viv to hospital environment so that you can watch to see if the piece did any damage, if that is the piece. You will be able to monitor if there is any blood in her stool and how often she is going. Maybe for a week or two just to make sure that seems to have been the piece.

Good luck and again here's hoping it is the piece and it came out damage free.
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I think I am going to take your advise here. I'll move her over in a bit. Now her normal feeding day is on Tuesdays. When would any of you think would be a good time to start feed again?
 
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