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Dead Snake

:( Just found a second one dead. This was the one that was always regurging. I had been giving him nutribac daily, and last week he ate the leg from a fuzzy that had nutribac on it. I was SO happy yesterday when I saw that he had still kept it down. But I just went to check on him and he was upside down and twisted up.. I figure he deserved a proper burial.

So Now I have one that is doing fine, eats all the time without issue as of late, and the other is just simply refusing to eat.
 
It is really disappointing. I am glad that one of them is doing well though. She is a little spit fire too, always rattling and striking.
 
The freebies, the one I purchased is and has been doing great, no issues at all. They are all quarantined though.
 
I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I agree with all of the other posters who were outraged that a seller would send extra free animals without word or warning; animals are a huge responsibility. I thank you so very much for your care and kindness to and of these orphaned snakelings.

Clostridium infections are awful. I can not speak from the snake perspective of course, but I know I suffered when I had one (Clostridium difficile)after a hospital admission. I hope it does not affect the snakes the way it does man; in humans it causes horrid stomach spasms along with the vomiting, and vile diarrhea,which I think you would have mentioned had it been there. It also is contagious....I would wonder not only about your other snakes, which are in isolation, but you yourself...can you get it from these hatchlings? Was it C diff that was found? If so, you may be in for a long siege. I hope you are not, and all is well and again, thank you so very much for taking on the care of these babies. The seller never should have sent them to you without first asking.
 
I sent the free babies with hets because about a dozen other breeders had made me the same offer (or sent without asking if I wanted them) over the last 3 years. And for that i am grateful. Back then I looked at it as a taste of what was to come. Some died, some lived, learned to FF, etc.

October 7th she finally paid via Paypal, but wanted me to ship 2 weeks later. So I shipped her coral ghost yearling and the 4 hatchlings on October 18th.
I did not hear anything more until I saw this Dead Snake thread;
started December 3.

Followed it but did not comment. Exchanged a couple more PMs with her. She had a biopsy done on a dead baby snake after it had been in her fridge awhile. Whatever. I gave her a 100% refund, $123.00, cost of the snake & shipping.


I use fresh disposable plastic cups for water with each baby snake here, each is housed individually, on a paper napkin, they get a 100% cleaning every 3-5 days, prior to feeding. No aspen with babies, just a clean paper napkin. Separate disposable 1-time-use pinky food dish.
 
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oh my lord! that poor animal.. :(

I don't know how anyone would allow for the tank to get that way.
that actually makes me very angry. (I follow a very similar routine to yours with my one hatchling, he's only on paper towels, with a corner of care fresh for burrowing, a vine to hide in and and some dry Sphagnum moss also for burrowing. oh and of course his warm and cool hide & a water dish) AND this is all in a stearilight tub, and still leaves him plenty of room too explore..

he only has one feeding tub, but I clean it after each use, for my own preference


I think that spot cleaning the tank daily is sort of BASIC when if comes to taking care of a pet, especially a snake that LIVES most of its life flat on ground-"i know that I wouldnt enjoy laying in/crawling through/ or even just having to avoid putting my face in my own feces ..." just saying ....

sorry for the little bit of a rant I had there: but that just disgust me! :crazy01:
 
I'm not taking sides, here, not calling either party a liar. I have seen this photo. I am not convinced that the green area is mold. Is it just an artifact made by the camera? The mouse, the snake, the person's hand and sleeve all look to have green areas to me, too. Is it a shadow? I can't tell.
 
This might be me being silly, but isn't that just shade rather than moldy aspen? Looks to me like that was where the water bowl was...
 
good call nanci! I honestly didn't notice the other green spots in the photo.. could very well be. but if its not, Its still very wrong.. but I do pole that you pointed that out!
thank you
 
Well, under the water bowl is where you'll get mold, and it happens VERY fast- in days- if there is a water bowl spill, or even more likely, you scrub the bowl and don't dry the bottom off before replacing it. The mold I've seen, though, is black.

I have very, very rarely seen a poop get moldy, if it's in a warm area, and that mold is green.
 
Gotta say it looks like a shadow to me. Nanci is right though, you do get mold very quickly under water dishes, especially if they spill it or if it's still damp after you clean it.
 
It is sad that the baby snakes died, and I do know what you are going thru with losing babies like that. With that said. It seems the thread is getting off base.
When we send babies out to their new homes, somewhere down the road some are going to die. Whether it be stress, weather, or just bad luck. And when that happens we have to do what is right. And I think in this case it was.
The full price of the purchased snake was refunded, the others seem to have been OOE babies. We all know that no matter how good the breeder is and no matter how skilled the new owner is these things can and do happen.
I am not taking sides, just giving my opinion on what I see here. I also think this is not the right place to address this.
 
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