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Menhir
Charmelippe
Try searching for it - there were several posts in the genetic section.
For example this one http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17792&highlight=Christmas
Use the advanced search and only the Cultivars section, you avoid finding many posts about Christmas itself :flames:
For example this one http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17792&highlight=Christmas
Use the advanced search and only the Cultivars section, you avoid finding many posts about Christmas itself :flames:
The only person I know of who uses that term is Kevin Enge here in Tallahassee. They are an offshoot of his Candy Cane line, if I remember correctly. The original roots of that stock came from Glenn Slemmer, through HogTown Herps, and is pretty much a given having emoryi blood in them.
kathylove
Pragmatic & Logical
Is it a Petco?
If so, it may have come from Gourmet Rodent (they supply a lot of Petcos). They have a line that may be a new type of hypo, originally descending from animals from Daufuskie Island (sp?) I believe we put a small mention of them in the revised Manual (the one that isn't available yet). It can be a very pretty snake. I think they (Gourmet Rodent) have bred it to the 'old" hypos and got normals, but I would have to check my notes. Try to find out if it came from that breeder. If so, and you like it, you might find it a fun gene to explore.
If so, it may have come from Gourmet Rodent (they supply a lot of Petcos). They have a line that may be a new type of hypo, originally descending from animals from Daufuskie Island (sp?) I believe we put a small mention of them in the revised Manual (the one that isn't available yet). It can be a very pretty snake. I think they (Gourmet Rodent) have bred it to the 'old" hypos and got normals, but I would have to check my notes. Try to find out if it came from that breeder. If so, and you like it, you might find it a fun gene to explore.
The only ones I've ever heard of were originally developed by Bill Brant of The Gourmet Rodent,Like Kathy said. I had heard somewhere that this line did not breed true and that the project was shelved, but I'm not sure. Here's a pic from an older(1999) book by Dick Bartlett.
kathylove
Pragmatic & Logical
Yes, those are the ones I am familiar with.
Back in the "old" days (over 10 years ago, don't remember exactly when), the strain was more inbred and many did show the greenish ring around the blotches. Now, Bill's staff told me (when we were getting info for the new book a year or so ago) that they have outcrossed the line extensively. So there is much more variation than earlier. If anyone wants to work with them, they will probably have to get several specimens, and then do some inbreeding to bring the line back to "breeding true" as far as the greenish ring goes. But the "hypo" part of the line does seem to breed true.
Back in the "old" days (over 10 years ago, don't remember exactly when), the strain was more inbred and many did show the greenish ring around the blotches. Now, Bill's staff told me (when we were getting info for the new book a year or so ago) that they have outcrossed the line extensively. So there is much more variation than earlier. If anyone wants to work with them, they will probably have to get several specimens, and then do some inbreeding to bring the line back to "breeding true" as far as the greenish ring goes. But the "hypo" part of the line does seem to breed true.
Serpwidgets
New member
I got to examine a few of these (as hatchlings) in person and the thing that jumped out at me was how red they are. Most hypos I've seen tend to have a lot of washed out orange/red instead of the deeper/richer colors on them. IMO these are an interesting and "different" line of hypos (even if they're the same gene as hypoA) and are worth working with if that's something you desire in hypos.
kathylove
Pragmatic & Logical
Yes, that is the problem with these names - until one definition is accepted by pretty much everyone, people will use the same name to describe lots of different animals. Even when a name is finally and firmly established, there will always be somebody who will use it for something else, either because they are not aware of the difference, or they just want to do their own thing.
Once Serp's registry is well established, it may help standardize names a lot more than they are now!
Once Serp's registry is well established, it may help standardize names a lot more than they are now!