• Hello!

    Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.

    Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....

    Please be certain that the location field is correctly filled out when you register. All registrations that appear to be bogus will be rejected. Which means that if your location field does NOT match the actual location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected.

    Sorry about the strictness of this requirement, but it is necessary to block spammers and scammers at the door as much as possible.

how do i breed a corn snake?

shed'n my skin said:
There's a few posts like this around this time every year. My theory is when people start posting their hatchling baby pictures they just look so cool it is kind of tempting to want to take the next step and breed corn snakes.
We all were there once and started out with the same questions, you have to start somewhere. If you read Kathy's book all answers will be revealed young grasshoppers! ;)
Click to expand...

While I know the OP hasn't been back I agree with Chris. Jen also has a good point. This time of year people I think even experienced people want to breed, because the babies are so darn cute. All the colors...
I'm sorry I don't have Kathy's book, don't know why, but this site has always given me the answers either by reading or asking really stupid questions.
 
I too am always asking questions that I feel seem stupid, but I ask them anyway because I want to know the answer or other peoples opinions... I admit I have bought some snakes in hopes of someday breeding them... I have lost a pet in my past due to breeding her and I was very upset... She wasn't a snake but I really cared about her and because I wanted the cute little babies she died... :cry: I have to be ready for the loss of something I love before I ever consider breeding my pets again... I really feel breeding is something you should take into deep consideration before you ever do it...
 
I wasn't trying to sound like I had all the answers either with my little grasshopper joke!
I think it was Socrates (the philosopher, not the CS member) who said the following:
"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
 
Jenstar wrote:
...I really feel breeding is something you should take into deep consideration before you ever do it...
Click to expand...

I could not possibly agree with you more. Before I ever decided to breed my snakes, I made conscious decisions regarding what I would do in many different, and very sad, circumstances such as non-feeders, birth defects, egg binding, prolapses, and the myriad other problems that can happen with breeding.

I think alot of people want to breed because they want all the cute babies. But I also think that there are FAR too many people that simply think, "Oh, I'll get a male and a female, they will amte, and I'll have babies!", without ever considering potential consequences for the adults, as well as potential results with the offspring and what to do with all thjose babies when they DO hatch.

Part of the problem is that corns mate so easily, it makes breeding them seem like an easy prospect. Physically, it is not difficult at all to raise them to the right size and put a pair together. But logistically, it takes a lot of advanced consideration to make very difficult decisions, and stick WITH those decisions if and when things go wrong. Because I am quite sure anyone with breeding experience can tellyou...no matter how "right" you do things...stuff still goes wrong. And if you aren't prepared, mentally, emotionally, and financially, to deal with these issues when they come up...I don't believe you are prepared to breed.

Of course...that is only my $.02, and with current inflation rates in the U.S....you're lucky if it's worth a half-penny...
 
It is irritating how a few people on this site come across (not necessarily how you are) as arrogant and condescending. To quote Jessicat, "I think if you don't know the answers to the questions you're asking you shouldn't be breeding yet." Yes you were more harsh than Tyflier and unecessarily so. Perhaps the OP has not returned due to some of the responses.

In response to Jessicat's statement, if we actually knew the answers, we would never ask the questions. At the least the OP came to this site looking for answers. The OP did not imply they were in a rush to breed, they were just trying to figure out where to start. There's a lot of good information you all have to offer, but please try to keep in mind some of us are just getting started.

I just bred my 11 year old daughter's Amel and Normal this year mainly as an educational, life experience for her since she absolutely loves all things related to animals. I read a lot, posted a little, and ignored most of the more arrogant sounding responses.

Our female laid 11 eggs (and 2 slugs), 10 of which hatched beetween day 60-62. The other did not make it. Eight of them shed and had their first meal
yesterday without any issues; although the lone anery had to be placed in a smaller container so he would quit hiding from the dead pinkie! The other two shed last night so I'll feed them when I get home tonight.

The bottom line is 95% of you provide great answers in a very respectful manner. The other 5%, whether intentional or not, show little or no respect to other posters and as a result may turn people off to this site. If you ridicule people into not asking questions, how do you really expect to further educate folks like myself in the care and keeping of corn snakes. And for the other 95% of you, speak up when the 5% drops the attitude on people. Noobs like myself would like to know everyone is not against us.
 
It's a good point, but it is also helpful if a new member makes an effort to find out if there are other posts containing their answers by doing a bit of research before posting. I have nothing against new members or their questions. But some questions have been asked, and answered, countless times to people over and over, and a little bit of using the search button would have come up with lots of posts giving advice on how to breed.
Why should people who are extremely busy this time of year with clutches of snakes, be required to answer the same questions over and over? What's wrong with referring a new person who wants to breed to a book that will answer all of their questions?
Especially in this case - OP didn't have just one question, it was more like he wanted step by step instructions on how to breed.
 
Have to say I agree with Jen. If folks are self-starters (such as yourself, dadxfour), then offering additional info or clarifying points, is definitely easier than essentially re-typing two or three chapters of a (really good) book.

I wish I had time to help with all "How do I..?" questions, but some answers genuinely are available here already and a quick trawl using Search would bring them up. Fair enough if Search has been attempted and either didn't find a specific bit of info, or just gave conflicting advice (a common problem with this many Corn keepers in one place!).

But expecting a blow-by-blow instruction sheet for breeding, really is a little much to expect from any forum. It may be that the whole process is more complex than the OP thought when he first asked the question. Hopefully this thread has at least given food for thought.
 
There are no problems at all referring people to other sources for their answers. Simply do it in a respectful manner (not snobbish, arrogant, condescending, etc), or don't bother. If you're too busy to reply, then people will go search elsewhere. No one will fault you for not having time to reply.

The search engine here is not all that great, so finding exactly what you want is a hit and miss proposition. I know JoeJr14 was working on a Breeding FAQ over a year ago, but it does not appear it was ever finished. Perhaps, those of you with all of the tribal knowledge could create a breeding FAQ so noobs can find it more readily. Then we would not need to bother you with basic questions.

Incidently, I searched for "breeding faq" and recieved the following response:

"The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search: faq"

So it returned every single topic with breeding; not exactly as specific as I'd hoped. Words like "how" and "faq" are ignored in searches on this site.

You yourself used a great quote, "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing." I along with a lot of others are just seeking wisdom from some of you folks who have it. When we post questions in a sincere, respectful manner, it is not too much to ask they be answered in the same manner.
 
I'm not trying to be confrontational or start a fight, but I didn't see anything posted in this thread that should have driven away the OP. I mean, this IS an open discussion board. If a person is too sensitive to participate in an open discussion board, then perhaps books and independent research are really their best bet anyway. It takes all types to make a forum.

I don't really disagree with your points, dadxfour, but I do get a little edgy and defensive myself when I see people telling other members how to post when no rules are being broken. I have to say that the following statement seems a little bit arrogant to me:

dadxfour said:
There are no problems at all referring people to other sources for their answers. Simply do it in a respectful manner (not snobbish, arrogant, condescending, etc), or don't bother.
Click to expand...

When you say "There are no problems...", for whom are there no problems? You? Like I said, I don't really disagree with your opinions, but no one here is obligated to post in a manner consistent with your opinions or mine. Their options aren't limited to doing it our way or shutting up. Know what I mean?
 
Wow, you're a lively bunch! I was voicing the "opinion" people should try to be respectful when responding to others. I am not sure how that translates to arrogant, but there are apparently a few more of you who want to respond, however you please. I never once questioned the value of the advice (I think highly of the advice I have received), simply the manner in which it is delivered to people sometimes.

But hey if it makes some folks feel good to treat others like garbage, then you are absolutely right, who are we to tell them to be nice as long as they are not breaking any "rules". Besides, if grown adults haven't learned to be respectful at this stage in life, perphaps I am expecting too much. Sadly, I've seen better manners on myspace...but that's just my "opinion"...

...and perhaps a little sarcsam. :-o

If nothing else you provided me some great discussion fodder for the youth group I teach.

"Rules are weak person's excuse to merely meet expectations, rather than exceed them."
 
I'm sorry you feel that way, dadxfour. I was merely voicing my opinion as well. I'd hope that you haven't found me ill-mannered or arrogant.

However, I believe we've ended up having a constructive and civil exchange of views in this thread.
 
dadxfour said:
Wow, you're a lively bunch! I was voicing the "opinion" people should try to be respectful when responding to others. I am not sure how that translates to arrogant, but there are apparently a few more of you who want to respond, however you please. I never once questioned the value of the advice (I think highly of the advice I have received), simply the manner in which it is delivered to people sometimes.

But hey if it makes some folks feel good to treat others like garbage, then you are absolutely right, who are we to tell them to be nice as long as they are not breaking any "rules". Besides, if grown adults haven't learned to be respectful at this stage in life, perphaps I am expecting too much. Sadly, I've seen better manners on myspace...but that's just my "opinion"...

...and perhaps a little sarcsam. :-o

If nothing else you provided me some great discussion fodder for the youth group I teach.

"Rules are weak person's excuse to merely meet expectations, rather than exceed them."
Click to expand...

“A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.” :grin01: See? There's a quotation appropriate to deliver any subtle insult. ;)
 
Starsevol!
"It's amazing how many little details are forgotten over the course of a year and how much you can doubt yourself when things don't go as planned!"

True that!
 
Touche, Mr. Munson. I apologize for allowing myself to "go off" on you. That sarcastic side of me is difficult to contain sometimes! ;) No worries Bitsy, I found nothing wrong yours posts. If you reread my original reply, I actually didn't call anyone ill-mannered or arrogant, I was merely expressing the point sometimes our written words come across in ways we may not intend. I was merely asking folks to try being respectful when answering what they consider a stupid or unnecessary question. Or if they feel the need to be rude or condescending to the poster, just don't bother replying. Anyway some folks here...not you :) ... think it's okay to be disrespectful or rude to others. Although I agree with Mr. Munson, it is an open forum and we are entitled to post in any way we please (within the rules), I still believe it is not too much to ask we respond in respectful manners. However, I do stand by my quote Mr. Munson; why merely meet expectation when we can exceed them? No sarcasm or insults here, just an honest and sincere opinion.
 
Jessicat said:
My responce is going to be kinda similar to tyflier's.. perhaps a bit more harsh though.

I think if you don't know the answers to the questions you're asking you shouldn't be breeding yet. The knowledge will come with time and research. Lurk around here and read up. I've never bred a Cornsnake, but I know a lot about Burmation, Incubation, minimum requirements for breeding snakes, genetics.. the list goes on. The point is when I am ready I will know what I'm doing.

I'm not trying to be condescending, I just think you need to take a step back and learn about what you're doing before you attempt it. You're asking pretty fundamental questions that most hobbiests know fairly well. What's the rush anyway?
Click to expand...

What this guy said. I'm also very interested in breeding snakes ( Been an owner of snakes for the past 2 years ) and I believe myself to be well-read in most of the areas, but I think theres a little more I need to know before attempting. Don't rush to breed, take your time and learn what you need to before-hand, otherwise things could get messy.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top