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I don't get this...
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Kokopelli
Resident Boa Fanatic
I am not sure if I missed this or not- but on the whole handling your snake when the "lump" is visible is generally a bad idea.
Also I kind of disagree with some of the things that were said- indeed too high temperatures can cause major issues but are slightly less likely to induce regurgitation in my opinion but a variety of other serious health hazards.
It think that said pinkie was perhaps a bit too large, even punkies come in different shapes and sizes. If the item was too large to be digested completely- a regurgitation is bound to occur.
I had a hatchling who was simply too small for whole pinkies, so I fed him just the heads, or halves.
I am sure he will be just fine
keep us informed!
Also I kind of disagree with some of the things that were said- indeed too high temperatures can cause major issues but are slightly less likely to induce regurgitation in my opinion but a variety of other serious health hazards.
It think that said pinkie was perhaps a bit too large, even punkies come in different shapes and sizes. If the item was too large to be digested completely- a regurgitation is bound to occur.
I had a hatchling who was simply too small for whole pinkies, so I fed him just the heads, or halves.
I am sure he will be just fine
keep us informed!
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
He's dead. 
I hadn't touched him since the regurge and he was fine up until early this morning some time when I came out to put wood in the fire. Ever since I got up though, around noon (heh), he was in the exact same spot and so finally I got up there and stared at him a while, didn't see any breathing, opened the top of the tank and reached down and sure enough, he's dead.
Please does ANYBODY have a clue as to what may have happened to him???? The temps are right, but he took what I think is way too long to digest a one day old pinkie, he regurged 5 days later, and now here it is 2 days since he regurged and he just up and died.
I'm very distraught cause he was such a SWEET snake, I couldn't have asked for a better snake and now I don't even know what to do, do I even try to get another snake or am I just not meant to have a snake??
I hadn't touched him since the regurge and he was fine up until early this morning some time when I came out to put wood in the fire. Ever since I got up though, around noon (heh), he was in the exact same spot and so finally I got up there and stared at him a while, didn't see any breathing, opened the top of the tank and reached down and sure enough, he's dead.
Please does ANYBODY have a clue as to what may have happened to him???? The temps are right, but he took what I think is way too long to digest a one day old pinkie, he regurged 5 days later, and now here it is 2 days since he regurged and he just up and died.
I'm very distraught cause he was such a SWEET snake, I couldn't have asked for a better snake and now I don't even know what to do, do I even try to get another snake or am I just not meant to have a snake??
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
I am so sorry for your loss. HUGS.
And yes, you should get another snake, in time.
First I suggest you go to www.cornutopia.com and order Kathy's book. I have it and it's wonderful.
Then shop around. Maybe look for an older snake. Older snakes tend to be well established and much better for handling.
Check out the breeders on this site.
And yes, you should get another snake, in time.
First I suggest you go to www.cornutopia.com and order Kathy's book. I have it and it's wonderful.
Then shop around. Maybe look for an older snake. Older snakes tend to be well established and much better for handling.
Check out the breeders on this site.
Kokopelli
Resident Boa Fanatic
I am so sorry to hear that... I really am.
Are you -positive- that he is dead? when they are lethargic it can seem like it...
My first snake ever was a normal baby cornsnake and he too died shortly after I got him.
Some babies don't live to see adulthood, it is a harsh, cold fact. I am certain that you gave that snake the best possible life for him and that he went away in peace, being loved and provided for.
I too felt exactly the same, I was devastated(the fact that my girlfriend and I broke up the following day didn't add any joy to the ordeal) but I just -had- to try again. And since than I got 11 more snakes and they are all fine.
You can't really know what that little corn went through before arriving at your place, and beating your head over it will do you little good- from what I see you did everything you could for the little chap, it isn't your fault. It's nature being nature.
I really hope you will be able to get through this and allow yourself to open your heart to another snake, so that another one will be given a chance to enjoy the care you can provide.
I know it's hard, and it seems unfair- but that's life, I wish it wasn't so.
I wish you all the best,
truly.
Oren.
Are you -positive- that he is dead? when they are lethargic it can seem like it...
My first snake ever was a normal baby cornsnake and he too died shortly after I got him.
Some babies don't live to see adulthood, it is a harsh, cold fact. I am certain that you gave that snake the best possible life for him and that he went away in peace, being loved and provided for.
I too felt exactly the same, I was devastated(the fact that my girlfriend and I broke up the following day didn't add any joy to the ordeal) but I just -had- to try again. And since than I got 11 more snakes and they are all fine.
You can't really know what that little corn went through before arriving at your place, and beating your head over it will do you little good- from what I see you did everything you could for the little chap, it isn't your fault. It's nature being nature.
I really hope you will be able to get through this and allow yourself to open your heart to another snake, so that another one will be given a chance to enjoy the care you can provide.
I know it's hard, and it seems unfair- but that's life, I wish it wasn't so.
I wish you all the best,
truly.
Oren.
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
Thanks to both of you.
Oh yes, he's most definitely dead, all stiff.
Hubby thinks there was something wrong with him to begin with and he also mentioned the same thing, that I don't know what he went thru in shipping. Now I didn't think this was any concern at the time, but ever since I got him, Wylie was never very active not even when I would get him out, I just figured it was his personality but maybe it wasn't... I mean he just laid on me WAY more than he moved anywhere. I didn't think anything of it but perhaps there was something to that. Plus the fact that after 5 days he still didn't have a one day old pinkie digested. He was 3 months old, weighed 6 grams and was 12" long.
Maybe I just got a dud? A snake that wasn't going to survive no matter who it's keeper was? Gosh I sure hope it's that and not something I did. If I'm guilty of anything it would be loving him too much, cause I got him out of his tank every night to hold him, until he regurged, then I put him back in his tank and didn't touch him since, but he ended up dead anyway.
As a matter-of-fact I did look in the local newspaper online and I found someone who is selling a 3 1/2 foot long corn snake for $80! That's a steal, isn't it? I talked to the guy and he says he just has too many reptiles and that this corn snake is awesome, very good tempered, he doesn't know his sex or morph type but says he's orange and yellow. I asked him to email me some pics when he gets home from work. I don't know if I'll want him or not cause there are certain colors of corn snakes that I just don't like, I don't like the amel varieties mainly. I really, really like ones with very distinctly contrasted patterns with the brown eyes. So I don't know, it'll definitely be something I have to think about. I won't make a decision either until I talk to Don, who I bought Wylie from. But at least I think hubby will be agreeable to my getting another one instead of just saying tough, we don't have the money (cause we really don't). I really don't have another $121 to fork out for a new baby Abbott's Okeetee snake.
Oh, and I've got Don's book, was planning on getting Kathy's as well.
Oh yes, he's most definitely dead, all stiff.
Hubby thinks there was something wrong with him to begin with and he also mentioned the same thing, that I don't know what he went thru in shipping. Now I didn't think this was any concern at the time, but ever since I got him, Wylie was never very active not even when I would get him out, I just figured it was his personality but maybe it wasn't... I mean he just laid on me WAY more than he moved anywhere. I didn't think anything of it but perhaps there was something to that. Plus the fact that after 5 days he still didn't have a one day old pinkie digested. He was 3 months old, weighed 6 grams and was 12" long.
Maybe I just got a dud? A snake that wasn't going to survive no matter who it's keeper was? Gosh I sure hope it's that and not something I did. If I'm guilty of anything it would be loving him too much, cause I got him out of his tank every night to hold him, until he regurged, then I put him back in his tank and didn't touch him since, but he ended up dead anyway.
As a matter-of-fact I did look in the local newspaper online and I found someone who is selling a 3 1/2 foot long corn snake for $80! That's a steal, isn't it? I talked to the guy and he says he just has too many reptiles and that this corn snake is awesome, very good tempered, he doesn't know his sex or morph type but says he's orange and yellow. I asked him to email me some pics when he gets home from work. I don't know if I'll want him or not cause there are certain colors of corn snakes that I just don't like, I don't like the amel varieties mainly. I really, really like ones with very distinctly contrasted patterns with the brown eyes. So I don't know, it'll definitely be something I have to think about. I won't make a decision either until I talk to Don, who I bought Wylie from. But at least I think hubby will be agreeable to my getting another one instead of just saying tough, we don't have the money (cause we really don't). I really don't have another $121 to fork out for a new baby Abbott's Okeetee snake.
Oh, and I've got Don's book, was planning on getting Kathy's as well.
Joejr14
Grand Bubble Burster
I really don't have another $121 to fork out for a new baby Abbott's Okeetee snake.
Oh, and I've got Don's book, was planning on getting Kathy's as well.
$121 for an okeetee? Damn, I need to get out of the 'actual' morphs and into okeetees then.
You can easily get an adult male with shipping for less than $121.
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
It was an Abbott's Okeetee, they're more expensive than just a plain Okeetee, not sure if you were aware of that or not.
But yes, $75 for the snake, $46 for shipping. So yeah, ouch, had the snake less than 2 weeks, I don't have another $121 right now.
I am hoping to hear from Don from SMR about it tomorrow, I called him and left a message. Perhaps he can do something for me, otherwise yes, I'm in the market for another Abbott's Okeetee, so if anyone sees this and has one, PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! I've been so upset all day, that's why I'm STILL awake and typing a message here. I don't think I can even go to sleep. I was really in love with that snake, he was so good-natured, such a sweet snake, I'm afraid I won't be able to get one just like him again, waaaahhhhh!!!!
ghosthousecorns
Well-known member
I'm truly sorry for your loss. It doesn't sound like anything you did wrong. I hope you will find a nice healthy snake to ease your loss a little...
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
Thanks. I just get so attached, so quick sometimes. He was just such a sweetheart, I couldn't help but fall in love with the little guy. He's the kind of snake that I probably could have done just about anything with. He let me rub his chin and was always just so calm and relaxed, I couldn't help but feel he was as into me as I was into him. He would just hang out on me, content to do so. So it's like why did such a sweet snake have to die. I know he would have made the best snake pet for me. I was looking forward to having him the rest of his life and having him live a LONG time, the full 15 years or more! It's so disheartening, it broke my heart that he died, it really did. I am hoping I will feel better tomorrow after getting a phone call from Don.
lil_rab2005
New member
I'm so sorry...
I truly understand when you say that he let you rub his chin and that you could feel he was as into you as you were into him. My ball python is the same way (well it's my sons but in my eyes she's mine lol), she's such a good snake. And maybe they aren't really being cuddly, but they only cuddle because of our warmth but I'd rather think that she's cuddling on me lol. I don't care what anyone says... she's as loving as a snake can be.
Good luck when you talk to Don tomorrow. Maybe there is something that he can do. It was definitely nothing that you did, it was his time to go. That's nature and sometimes it really sucks... I'm so sorry.
I really dred the day something happens to my baby. I'm so sorry about your loss. Maybe wait just a little while before you get another one but definitely get another one as soon as you stop mourning. It will make you feel alot better.
Take care,
Lil.
I'm here if you need someone to talk to
I truly understand when you say that he let you rub his chin and that you could feel he was as into you as you were into him. My ball python is the same way (well it's my sons but in my eyes she's mine lol), she's such a good snake. And maybe they aren't really being cuddly, but they only cuddle because of our warmth but I'd rather think that she's cuddling on me lol. I don't care what anyone says... she's as loving as a snake can be.
Good luck when you talk to Don tomorrow. Maybe there is something that he can do. It was definitely nothing that you did, it was his time to go. That's nature and sometimes it really sucks... I'm so sorry.
I really dred the day something happens to my baby. I'm so sorry about your loss. Maybe wait just a little while before you get another one but definitely get another one as soon as you stop mourning. It will make you feel alot better.
Take care,
Lil.
I'm here if you need someone to talk to
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
Thanks.
Don and I are discussing the issue via email. Most of all I want to make SURE it is nothing I did wrong and if I did, obviously it will be corrected in time before getting another snake.
We are discussing temps as improper temps can cause a snake not to digest properly (which I knew). Wylie stayed on the warm side in his log hide for 3 days for sure, maybe even 4, and the mouse still was not digested, that's what gets me. I mean he didn't move out of that log hide for at least 3 days. I don't recall where he was on day 4 after the feeding but I know for sure by day 5, the day he regurgitated, he was in the cave hide which sits in the middle of the tank, he was towards the warm side. So I just don't know. I thought that by 3 days that any snake would have digested its meal by that time provided the meal was not too large, anyone??? Wylie had a one day old pinkie which did not look too big at all and he had no trouble at all consuming it. So I'm really at a loss as to what happened. Hopefully at least some kind of educated guess can be reached. That would certainly help me on the road to recovery from my mourning.
Don and I are discussing the issue via email. Most of all I want to make SURE it is nothing I did wrong and if I did, obviously it will be corrected in time before getting another snake.
We are discussing temps as improper temps can cause a snake not to digest properly (which I knew). Wylie stayed on the warm side in his log hide for 3 days for sure, maybe even 4, and the mouse still was not digested, that's what gets me. I mean he didn't move out of that log hide for at least 3 days. I don't recall where he was on day 4 after the feeding but I know for sure by day 5, the day he regurgitated, he was in the cave hide which sits in the middle of the tank, he was towards the warm side. So I just don't know. I thought that by 3 days that any snake would have digested its meal by that time provided the meal was not too large, anyone??? Wylie had a one day old pinkie which did not look too big at all and he had no trouble at all consuming it. So I'm really at a loss as to what happened. Hopefully at least some kind of educated guess can be reached. That would certainly help me on the road to recovery from my mourning.
MerlinsPop
New member
I've been off the site for a few days. So sorry to hear about your wee snake. Hopefully you'll be able to satisfy yourself that it wasn't a husbandry issue and then think about getting another one at some time.
Be sure to sanitize everything. Twice even. Just to be safe.
Be sure to sanitize everything. Twice even. Just to be safe.
Rich in KY
Fortunate Fool
I have also been off the forum for a few days. I am so sorry for your loss. :awcrap:
I am sure you will have better luck with your next snake.
I am sure you will have better luck with your next snake.
Wylie
Meet Sparkle... :D
Thanks.
I threw out the paper towels that I was using as substrate, I took everything that was inside the tank and soaked it in a sink full of hot, soapy water for about 15 minutes, I even added in 2 quarts of boiling water since I don't think our water gets very hot (we have a 2 1/2 year old in the house so we don't keep it scalding hot). I scrubbed out the inside of the tank twice with a mix of dish soap and glass cleaner with ammonia, rinsed it out good, then dried it with paper towels. I let all the hides and water dishes air dry. Everything is now put back inside the tank where it sits awaiting for the next snake. How does that sound?
I have a concern though, when I got all the hides and water dishes out of the hot water to rinse them, my log hide had a what I considered to be a strong paint smell to it (hubby says not but we all know women have a stronger sense of smell than men). Now only the outside is painted and plus I see that Nanci and some other members use what looks to be very similar type hides (grey log hides) in their tanks, obviously with no ill-effects, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm very scared of ANYTHING that might cause another snake to die and Wylie did lie in that log hide for an entire 3 days after feeding. Hubby thinks it's fine but when you're in my shoes and can't figure out why your snake died, well, I've been thinking of ALL possibilities. Opinions anyone?
I talked to Don via emails and he also says it doesn't sound like anything I did wrong and that as a matter-of-fact I went to a lot of trouble to make a nice, safe home for Wylie. I was constantly checking the temps in his tank, for instance even during overnight hours since I had to get up to put wood in our wood stove anyway. Plus I'm a stay-at-home mom who is ALWAYS at home so Wylie's conditions were almost continually monitored.
Anyway, yes, I'm getting another corn snake, I wanted a snake and when I got Wylie, I had to ask myself why in the world it took me SO LONG to own a snake! I also told hubby I will ALWAYS have a snake now. So altho I am still sad about Wylie, I really miss having a snake already and so after talking to Don, he is sending me another Abbott's Okeetee this coming week. Yay!
Don even said he would test handle them to see which one he thought would be best for me based off what I told him about Wylie's personality. Don is definitely someone I'd recommend for buying a snake from if you're in the market. His very PERSONAL customer service to me was wonderful, definitely first rate. He was there for me when I was worried because Wylie hadn't arrived yet, ready to do whatever was necessary to make sure everything was okay with the shipping, he personally responded to my first email to him after receiving Wylie. And he promptly took care of the whole situation with Wylie's death by talking to me via emails, always responding within hours to no more than a day even though he was out of the office.
I must say, I'm very apprehensive though about getting another snake, I already lost one, I sure as heck don't want to lose another! And I don't feel quite the same way, yet, maybe I will, I don't know, but I don't feel the same way as when I was anticipating Wylie getting shipped to me. I felt like he was my baby even before they shipped him, but I don't feel that way so far this time, I feel like the snake that is going to be shipped out to me isn't really my snake, it just doesn't feel quite right, not the same as when I was waiting for Wylie to arrive. Perhaps my feelings will have changed by the time this next snake arrives. I don't think I'll bond with this one as quick as I did with Wylie though cause for sure this time, I'm not going to handle him at all until after he's had his first feeding and pooped. I don't want to take ANY chances with this one, that's for sure! So yeah, I imagine it will take me longer to bond with this one cause I'm still attached to Wylie and because I won't be handling this one for a while.
Anyway, thanks for checking in!
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
Thanks.
I threw out the paper towels that I was using as substrate, I took everything that was inside the tank and soaked it in a sink full of hot, soapy water for about 15 minutes, I even added in 2 quarts of boiling water since I don't think our water gets very hot (we have a 2 1/2 year old in the house so we don't keep it scalding hot). I scrubbed out the inside of the tank twice with a mix of dish soap and glass cleaner with ammonia, rinsed it out good, then dried it with paper towels. I let all the hides and water dishes air dry. Everything is now put back inside the tank where it sits awaiting for the next snake. How does that sound?
I have a concern though, when I got all the hides and water dishes out of the hot water to rinse them, my log hide had a what I considered to be a strong paint smell to it (hubby says not but we all know women have a stronger sense of smell than men). Now only the outside is painted and plus I see that Nanci and some other members use what looks to be very similar type hides (grey log hides) in their tanks, obviously with no ill-effects, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm very scared of ANYTHING that might cause another snake to die and Wylie did lie in that log hide for an entire 3 days after feeding. Hubby thinks it's fine but when you're in my shoes and can't figure out why your snake died, well, I've been thinking of ALL possibilities. Opinions anyone?
I talked to Don via emails and he also says it doesn't sound like anything I did wrong and that as a matter-of-fact I went to a lot of trouble to make a nice, safe home for Wylie. I was constantly checking the temps in his tank, for instance even during overnight hours since I had to get up to put wood in our wood stove anyway. Plus I'm a stay-at-home mom who is ALWAYS at home so Wylie's conditions were almost continually monitored.
Anyway, yes, I'm getting another corn snake, I wanted a snake and when I got Wylie, I had to ask myself why in the world it took me SO LONG to own a snake! I also told hubby I will ALWAYS have a snake now. So altho I am still sad about Wylie, I really miss having a snake already and so after talking to Don, he is sending me another Abbott's Okeetee this coming week. Yay!
Don even said he would test handle them to see which one he thought would be best for me based off what I told him about Wylie's personality. Don is definitely someone I'd recommend for buying a snake from if you're in the market. His very PERSONAL customer service to me was wonderful, definitely first rate. He was there for me when I was worried because Wylie hadn't arrived yet, ready to do whatever was necessary to make sure everything was okay with the shipping, he personally responded to my first email to him after receiving Wylie. And he promptly took care of the whole situation with Wylie's death by talking to me via emails, always responding within hours to no more than a day even though he was out of the office.
I must say, I'm very apprehensive though about getting another snake, I already lost one, I sure as heck don't want to lose another! And I don't feel quite the same way, yet, maybe I will, I don't know, but I don't feel the same way as when I was anticipating Wylie getting shipped to me. I felt like he was my baby even before they shipped him, but I don't feel that way so far this time, I feel like the snake that is going to be shipped out to me isn't really my snake, it just doesn't feel quite right, not the same as when I was waiting for Wylie to arrive. Perhaps my feelings will have changed by the time this next snake arrives. I don't think I'll bond with this one as quick as I did with Wylie though cause for sure this time, I'm not going to handle him at all until after he's had his first feeding and pooped. I don't want to take ANY chances with this one, that's for sure! So yeah, I imagine it will take me longer to bond with this one cause I'm still attached to Wylie and because I won't be handling this one for a while.
Anyway, thanks for checking in!
I'm glad you're getting another. And don't worry, 3 years from now you will look at this snake and feel as though he's always been there.
susang
New member
Sorry for your loss. I lost one of my first two corn snakes, at least I had the other one who is 4 years old now and 5+' and almost a kilo. The other one was very quiet and poor eater. I love the fiesty striking babies as they are for the most part good eaters. I handle my little ones very little for a couple months, now I am beginning to handle them more, but not everyday and not for 48 hours after feeding. You'll do fine with your next one. susang
Mr.AJ
Educated Horse.
Thanks.
I threw out the paper towels that I was using as substrate, I took everything that was inside the tank and soaked it in a sink full of hot, soapy water for about 15 minutes, I even added in 2 quarts of boiling water since I don't think our water gets very hot (we have a 2 1/2 year old in the house so we don't keep it scalding hot). I scrubbed out the inside of the tank twice with a mix of dish soap and glass cleaner with ammonia, rinsed it out good, then dried it with paper towels. I let all the hides and water dishes air dry. Everything is now put back inside the tank where it sits awaiting for the next snake. How does that sound?
I have a concern though, when I got all the hides and water dishes out of the hot water to rinse them, my log hide had a what I considered to be a strong paint smell to it (hubby says not but we all know women have a stronger sense of smell than men). Now only the outside is painted and plus I see that Nanci and some other members use what looks to be very similar type hides (grey log hides) in their tanks, obviously with no ill-effects, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I'm very scared of ANYTHING that might cause another snake to die and Wylie did lie in that log hide for an entire 3 days after feeding. Hubby thinks it's fine but when you're in my shoes and can't figure out why your snake died, well, I've been thinking of ALL possibilities. Opinions anyone?
I talked to Don via emails and he also says it doesn't sound like anything I did wrong and that as a matter-of-fact I went to a lot of trouble to make a nice, safe home for Wylie. I was constantly checking the temps in his tank, for instance even during overnight hours since I had to get up to put wood in our wood stove anyway. Plus I'm a stay-at-home mom who is ALWAYS at home so Wylie's conditions were almost continually monitored.
Anyway, yes, I'm getting another corn snake, I wanted a snake and when I got Wylie, I had to ask myself why in the world it took me SO LONG to own a snake! I also told hubby I will ALWAYS have a snake now. So altho I am still sad about Wylie, I really miss having a snake already and so after talking to Don, he is sending me another Abbott's Okeetee this coming week. Yay!
Don even said he would test handle them to see which one he thought would be best for me based off what I told him about Wylie's personality. Don is definitely someone I'd recommend for buying a snake from if you're in the market. His very PERSONAL customer service to me was wonderful, definitely first rate. He was there for me when I was worried because Wylie hadn't arrived yet, ready to do whatever was necessary to make sure everything was okay with the shipping, he personally responded to my first email to him after receiving Wylie. And he promptly took care of the whole situation with Wylie's death by talking to me via emails, always responding within hours to no more than a day even though he was out of the office.
I must say, I'm very apprehensive though about getting another snake, I already lost one, I sure as heck don't want to lose another! And I don't feel quite the same way, yet, maybe I will, I don't know, but I don't feel the same way as when I was anticipating Wylie getting shipped to me. I felt like he was my baby even before they shipped him, but I don't feel that way so far this time, I feel like the snake that is going to be shipped out to me isn't really my snake, it just doesn't feel quite right, not the same as when I was waiting for Wylie to arrive. Perhaps my feelings will have changed by the time this next snake arrives. I don't think I'll bond with this one as quick as I did with Wylie though cause for sure this time, I'm not going to handle him at all until after he's had his first feeding and pooped. I don't want to take ANY chances with this one, that's for sure! So yeah, I imagine it will take me longer to bond with this one cause I'm still attached to Wylie and because I won't be handling this one for a while.
Anyway, thanks for checking in!
Something tells me you'll do just fine.