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I guess I jumped the gun lol

aone4u2luv

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New here posted pics of the enclosure and snakes in photo forum but I've been told so many different things on other sites as to what my snakes really are any help if ya know here they are first is what I believe to be amel male
Second albino snow female
Third okeetee am I right?
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The last pic he's about 4.5 ft maybe bigger he's in a 29 gallon tank in that picture so u can see the size of this boy :) here is there new enclosure wondering about live plants? Still working on there enclosure uploadfromtaptalk1389788470638.jpg

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the first looks like it's probably amel (red albino) a little hard to tell on my screen
the second is a snow not albino snow. the snow morph is made up of amelanistic + anerytheristic also called red albino + black albino, meaning your snake has no red pigment and no black pigment. the third i believe is just a normal/classic, the borders aren't wide enough to be the okeetee morph and without knowing parentage it can't be labeled as an okeetee locality. i wouldn't use live plants in the viv. a lot of the time you have to remove everything from the tank to get the snake out. there's some other issues with humidity, drainage and potting medias when using live plants.
 
I agree with Cody, amel, snow and normal.

Also not sure if that tank is for one or more snakes, but it's not recommended to keep more than one per enclosure. A few reasons are: Stress (snakes are not usually community creatures, they prefer to be alone), if one gets sick you can't tell which one, breeding when you aren't prepared & rarely (but it does happen) cannibalism.

Here's some good info on the subject
 
The snakes have lived together with no problemms for a while now they do not sho signs of stress the snow does have red eyes and a little pinkish and yellow pigment in her?

i love my cornsnakes :)
 
the yellow pigment and red eyes are normal. snakes don't show stress like mammals so you may not know.
 
Everyone has the morphs covered. I agree, if they are housed together, separate them ASAP. They are not communal creatures. Also looks like there may be a significant size difference between the snow and the other two? Which increases stress, risk of breeding complications (if it is female), and risk of cannibalism (again, it's a rare occurance, but it does happen, and significant size difference is a big trigger here).

Re: live plants, I have done the planted vivarium thing for a corn snake, and am currently using it for a couple rat snakes. It works well, if done right. Do your research. The Art of Keeping Snakes by Phillipe de Vosjoli is a good place to start.

The main things to keep in mind. Pick hardy plants that don't need to be watered much (i.e. pothos, philodendron, asparagus fern), and pick a substrate that's going to be very mild. Organic potting soil seems to work alright, but I've had great luck mixing eco earth (coconut coir) and a bit of 100% cypress mulch.
 
yeah I'm going to back up separating them..

I would be worried about one of them becoming gravid at to young an age or size, and the obvious stress.. and regurges... oh so many reasons to have them in there own vivs.
 
Three of my corns are the same morph ( people on here helped me identify mine as well) anyway I noticed Cody said the snow was a snow not albino. I'm not disputing that at all was just wondering what's the difference between a snow and an albino snow. I've had two of them and was told that both were albino snow and they look exactly the same
 
Jdub61 said:
Three of my corns are the same morph ( people on here helped me identify mine as well) anyway I noticed Cody said the snow was a snow not albino. I'm not disputing that at all was just wondering what's the difference between a snow and an albino snow. I've had two of them and was told that both were albino snow and they look exactly the same
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Using the word 'albino' can be confusing in the corn snake world, so usually we use the more specific terms 'amelanistic' to indicate lack of black pigment (sometimes people call this a 'red albino') and the term 'anerythristic' to indicate lack of red pigment (sometimes called 'black albino'). Since a snow is a combination of those two morphs, calling it an albino snow is really quite redundant, since a snow will always be albino. There's no such thing as a non-albino snow. Does that make sense?
 
What's does hypo mean? I know no one said anything about a hypo but when you explained amel and anery it made me wonder
 
Jdub61 said:
What's does hypo mean? I know no one said anything about a hypo but when you explained amel and anery it made me wonder
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Hypo is just a single recessive gene. It's short for 'hypomelanistic' which means reduced black pigment. So they will usually have thin, light-colored borders around their saddles and their belly checkers will be more of a brown or grey than a rich black, like they would be on a normal corn snake.
 
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