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Jicin
Corn love
Oh suuuurreee. You eat squirels. Hope they taste good after you shoot them out of their trees.
Ever think of while you are having a blast the local wildlife is disrupted? But ofcource the head of a big buck looks stuffed so much nicer above your door. Your a big man. What do you do with prey you only wound, not kill? They die a slow, agonising death from either bloodloss or starvation.
You know, in breeding season you might kill of a whole family if you just shoot the mother. Why don't you invite the whole forum and you can keep a barbeque
Next time please consider killing innocent animals is rude to post on a forum for animal lovers. I don't go to an animal care center wearing a fur coath, or go to a gay bar telling them beeing gay is 'wrong'. Because i know by forehand i am going to offence people who go there. Before you go making petty insults at me, you should consider you offend people. Even though non dare to say it now because they will make the 'CAV and Co' black list.
I can say my opinion. And Krenna i know who i am. I dare to speak up for my believes and i will not be told to shut up. I don't go scream like a little piglet. Your the one that is nasty here. Rude and judgemental. I judge animal cruelty. And if more people would do so the world would be a better place. You however judge based on nothing. You keep trying to get attention by randomly yelling at me in topics you have nothing to do with in the first place just so you at least can go yell and feel better for it.
I am free to speak. You however can always find a stick if you want to beat a dog with it. Even if you have nothing else to say then rude words. Your nasty.
Ever think of while you are having a blast the local wildlife is disrupted? But ofcource the head of a big buck looks stuffed so much nicer above your door. Your a big man. What do you do with prey you only wound, not kill? They die a slow, agonising death from either bloodloss or starvation.
You know, in breeding season you might kill of a whole family if you just shoot the mother. Why don't you invite the whole forum and you can keep a barbeque
Next time please consider killing innocent animals is rude to post on a forum for animal lovers. I don't go to an animal care center wearing a fur coath, or go to a gay bar telling them beeing gay is 'wrong'. Because i know by forehand i am going to offence people who go there. Before you go making petty insults at me, you should consider you offend people. Even though non dare to say it now because they will make the 'CAV and Co' black list.
I can say my opinion. And Krenna i know who i am. I dare to speak up for my believes and i will not be told to shut up. I don't go scream like a little piglet. Your the one that is nasty here. Rude and judgemental. I judge animal cruelty. And if more people would do so the world would be a better place. You however judge based on nothing. You keep trying to get attention by randomly yelling at me in topics you have nothing to do with in the first place just so you at least can go yell and feel better for it.
I am free to speak. You however can always find a stick if you want to beat a dog with it. Even if you have nothing else to say then rude words. Your nasty.
Rachel
Vet nurse in training!
Jicin, I don't think anyone here is for animal cruelty. Like you say, you have your opinions. Hunting is not anywhere near in the same league as 'beating a dog with a stick'. Just because people choose to eat meat (as we are designed to bo) it doesn't make them animal haters! I am a zoologist, a vet nurse trainee and an equine massage therapist. I think that shows that I have dedicted my life to animals and their welfare (not that an accountant is any less an animal lover than I am, just making a point here). Yet I eat meat. So what? Does that classify me as being cruel to animals?
Ps CAV, wow mate, but just about every post and when people are referring to the 'big guns' they use your name! You're a mini celeb
Ps CAV, wow mate, but just about every post and when people are referring to the 'big guns' they use your name! You're a mini celeb
pcar
PCar's Reptiles
Jicin, I have yet to jump on you about the way that you "push" you opinions on people. Actually, I have held very plesents conversations with you on other posts and I have supported some of the ideas that you have given as help. Just because I hunt and state it on here, where there seems to be a lot of hunters present, doesn't mean that I am stating it to offend people. Yes, some people are offended by what others do. however, according to you and this being a free world and everyone has the right to freedom of speech, I can say and post what ever I like on here. And, if I remember correctly, this is a forum for SNAKES, not Game Animals.
Killing all animals is rude if you look at it a certain way. Ever bit of meat that you eat has come from an innocent animal. Angain, I point out how hipocrital you are. Yes, people here in USA do hunt and eat Squirrels. We also eat Deer, Bear, Birds, and in some places here people eat Snake. I have yet to shoot an animal that I have not killed. I do not shoot unless I am sure that I will bring it down (incase you aren't very hunt savvy, bring it down means one shot to kill). I also, do not have any deer heads stuffed on my wall, nor do I plan on doing so. For one, I think that is tacky and two, it is more expensive to have than done than to take a picture.
Here again, we see how ignorant you are. There are rules to hunting.
Rule 1) Only males may be hunted for Deer, Bear, Antelope, and other large game animals.
Rule 2) There are only certain times of the year that you can hunt any animal...And, I can garuntee that it is not during breeding season.
Rule 3) There is a set bag limit. This means that you can only take so many animals in the entire season. Example: One Buck a year, 5 Doves (Bird) a day (and yes, there are a lot of birds in the US that is every person hunted every day of the season, we would still have doves)
I know hunting offends people, and so does a lot of other things...namely telling someone that their opinion is wrong. An opinion is what someone believes. Not exactly what is right. Your opinion of hunting is that it is wrong...mine is that it is right...Which one of us is correct? Neither...Look up OPINION and figure out what the defination is. Also, I have yet to make a petty insult at you. The only thing that I have called you is a hypocit, and you agreed with me on that. And, to tell you the truth, I don't care whether you put me on your ignore list or not. What you think about me means about as much as the thought a bird takes before it ****s while flying over a person.
Yes, you can say your opinion, but so can everyone else. The biggest thing that people here have against you is that you attack people, like you did me, for stating their opinion when you don't agree with them. Not everyone is going to agree on an opinion. That is what an OPINION is. It is something that someone believes regardless of what other people believe. When person A knows what an opinion is, they usually leave it to that, or just say that they don't agree. Person A doesn't attack person B saying that person B is wrong and that person A is right. No one's opinion is ever going to be right. Thus it isn't called a FACT.
You can speak up for your beliefs. But you really need to learn to do so in an acceptable manner. Putting a person down because of their beliefs is wrong. I don't condemn the vegetarian because they don't eat meat. I don't hold a persons race, ethnic background, country status, age, or any other thing against them. However, what I do hold against some one is when they can't be intelligent enough to know when another person is free to believe what they want to believe. I am not trying to force you to hunt, eat meat, or anything else. On the other hand, you are trying to force me into believing that hunting is wrong. I won't take that nor will you ever get me to believe it.
I have reread this post, and have yet to find anyone stating that they are beating their dogs with sticks.
You need to look at this, and read your own posts. You are very rude and nasty in a lot of your posts. You don't like to be called names or told that you are wrong. How do you think the rest of us feel? We don't like you coming on here telling us that we are wrong.
Jicin said:
Killing all animals is rude if you look at it a certain way. Ever bit of meat that you eat has come from an innocent animal. Angain, I point out how hipocrital you are. Yes, people here in USA do hunt and eat Squirrels. We also eat Deer, Bear, Birds, and in some places here people eat Snake. I have yet to shoot an animal that I have not killed. I do not shoot unless I am sure that I will bring it down (incase you aren't very hunt savvy, bring it down means one shot to kill). I also, do not have any deer heads stuffed on my wall, nor do I plan on doing so. For one, I think that is tacky and two, it is more expensive to have than done than to take a picture.
jicin said:
Here again, we see how ignorant you are. There are rules to hunting.
Rule 1) Only males may be hunted for Deer, Bear, Antelope, and other large game animals.
Rule 2) There are only certain times of the year that you can hunt any animal...And, I can garuntee that it is not during breeding season.
Rule 3) There is a set bag limit. This means that you can only take so many animals in the entire season. Example: One Buck a year, 5 Doves (Bird) a day (and yes, there are a lot of birds in the US that is every person hunted every day of the season, we would still have doves)
jicin said:
I know hunting offends people, and so does a lot of other things...namely telling someone that their opinion is wrong. An opinion is what someone believes. Not exactly what is right. Your opinion of hunting is that it is wrong...mine is that it is right...Which one of us is correct? Neither...Look up OPINION and figure out what the defination is. Also, I have yet to make a petty insult at you. The only thing that I have called you is a hypocit, and you agreed with me on that. And, to tell you the truth, I don't care whether you put me on your ignore list or not. What you think about me means about as much as the thought a bird takes before it ****s while flying over a person.
Jicin said:
Yes, you can say your opinion, but so can everyone else. The biggest thing that people here have against you is that you attack people, like you did me, for stating their opinion when you don't agree with them. Not everyone is going to agree on an opinion. That is what an OPINION is. It is something that someone believes regardless of what other people believe. When person A knows what an opinion is, they usually leave it to that, or just say that they don't agree. Person A doesn't attack person B saying that person B is wrong and that person A is right. No one's opinion is ever going to be right. Thus it isn't called a FACT.
Jicin said:
You can speak up for your beliefs. But you really need to learn to do so in an acceptable manner. Putting a person down because of their beliefs is wrong. I don't condemn the vegetarian because they don't eat meat. I don't hold a persons race, ethnic background, country status, age, or any other thing against them. However, what I do hold against some one is when they can't be intelligent enough to know when another person is free to believe what they want to believe. I am not trying to force you to hunt, eat meat, or anything else. On the other hand, you are trying to force me into believing that hunting is wrong. I won't take that nor will you ever get me to believe it.
jicin said:
I have reread this post, and have yet to find anyone stating that they are beating their dogs with sticks.
jicin said:
You need to look at this, and read your own posts. You are very rude and nasty in a lot of your posts. You don't like to be called names or told that you are wrong. How do you think the rest of us feel? We don't like you coming on here telling us that we are wrong.
I wish I hadn't missed so much of this thread before I got to chime in.
I'll try to keep it as short and sweet as I can, but I tend to go a little tangential at times.
I am a mammal...my eyes are positioned in the front so I can determine the distance of prey. Therefore...I have evolved to eat meat.
I love meat...I love to hunt...and I love to keep animals as pets.
My 2 and 5 year old children and I polished off a pile of Elk Steaks the other day.
Did I cry for the poor elk that died...hell no. It tasted GREAT.
Is it a shame that it's head is on my dad's wall? Not at all...we have eaten/or will eat that entire animal. Did any of you anti-hunters or "animal welfare activists" ever realize (or are you all too thick-headed to believe real statistics posted by the US Fish and Wildlife Service) that hunters provide more money for habitat preservation than ANY other source in the US? Including all the tree-huggers and monkey releasers combined. We do more for the habitat than ANY other group. Not just in purchases made for hunting, but in contributions made to various groups (Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, National Wild Turkey Federation, etc.), as well as working with state and federal groups to control population sizes.
All those poor deer...I read a report that in 2003 it was estimated that there were more White Tailed Deer in the United States than there had been in over 150 years.
This is due to human encroachment. There are no natural predators left for these animals...not because people hunt them, because people need somewhere to live. If the deer herds were not thinned by hunters, these deer overpopulate and STARVE. Boy...let's stop shooting deer...lets starve them instead...that is MUCH more humane.
The answer to this is if all you people who feel so strongly about animal "rights" stop breeding...we can slow the population growth, while strenghtening the gene pool.
That is about all I have to say...now I gotta go...I am sure there is something somewhere I can kill and eat.
I'll try to keep it as short and sweet as I can, but I tend to go a little tangential at times.
I am a mammal...my eyes are positioned in the front so I can determine the distance of prey. Therefore...I have evolved to eat meat.
I love meat...I love to hunt...and I love to keep animals as pets.
My 2 and 5 year old children and I polished off a pile of Elk Steaks the other day.
Did I cry for the poor elk that died...hell no. It tasted GREAT.
Is it a shame that it's head is on my dad's wall? Not at all...we have eaten/or will eat that entire animal. Did any of you anti-hunters or "animal welfare activists" ever realize (or are you all too thick-headed to believe real statistics posted by the US Fish and Wildlife Service) that hunters provide more money for habitat preservation than ANY other source in the US? Including all the tree-huggers and monkey releasers combined. We do more for the habitat than ANY other group. Not just in purchases made for hunting, but in contributions made to various groups (Ducks Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, National Wild Turkey Federation, etc.), as well as working with state and federal groups to control population sizes.
All those poor deer...I read a report that in 2003 it was estimated that there were more White Tailed Deer in the United States than there had been in over 150 years.
This is due to human encroachment. There are no natural predators left for these animals...not because people hunt them, because people need somewhere to live. If the deer herds were not thinned by hunters, these deer overpopulate and STARVE. Boy...let's stop shooting deer...lets starve them instead...that is MUCH more humane.
The answer to this is if all you people who feel so strongly about animal "rights" stop breeding...we can slow the population growth, while strenghtening the gene pool.
That is about all I have to say...now I gotta go...I am sure there is something somewhere I can kill and eat.
Thank's Paul
(Although we hunt deer during mating season...most of the states in the midwest do...don't know about the South...and in Illinois it is easier to get doe tags than buck tags...can take multiple does...only allowed one buck, two in all seasons combined)
This helps cut down on population...if we shoot only bucks...other bucks still mate with the females keeping the same growth rate with genes from younger, possibly inferior animals.
(Although we hunt deer during mating season...most of the states in the midwest do...don't know about the South...and in Illinois it is easier to get doe tags than buck tags...can take multiple does...only allowed one buck, two in all seasons combined)
This helps cut down on population...if we shoot only bucks...other bucks still mate with the females keeping the same growth rate with genes from younger, possibly inferior animals.
CAV
Dazed and Cornfused
Rachel said:
Isn't it amazing? I can stir the muck without even being on the forum.
I guess there is a lot to be said about eating meat. After all, it took a bunch of beef eating Americans, Brits and Canadians to liberate certain countries in northern Europe from a German occupation.
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CAV's name is well known...I inadvertantly got into a "discussion" with CAV once...and I have to say, he's a force to be reckoned with!!
I was even at the Chicago show this weekend and someone (I won't say who)mentioned CAV and genetics discussions and how in depth and contested they can get...right before everyone has a good laugh together.
That just shows he has passion and an informed opinion.
I was even at the Chicago show this weekend and someone (I won't say who)mentioned CAV and genetics discussions and how in depth and contested they can get...right before everyone has a good laugh together.
That just shows he has passion and an informed opinion.
pcar
PCar's Reptiles
Alias47 said:
Your welcome Derek. Here in Texas. we hunt from the second Sunday in November to the middle of December. In some counties, you can get a DOE tag, and in others you can't. in some Counties, you can take multiple Bucks, and others only one. most of the Season is just before RUT and the last part of the season is during.
Our rut starts much earlier here...Bow season opened on Oct. 1st and will run until Jan. 15th or so...except when it's interupted by gun season which is the weekend before (Fri-Sun) and the weekend after (Thurs-Sun) Thanksgiving.
Rut here usually starts late october to early november and might last until beginning of December...but not usually even that long.
Rut here usually starts late october to early november and might last until beginning of December...but not usually even that long.
LOL...there was definitely nothing bad said about you...actually I feel you were paid a rather good complement...especially with the high esteem this individual is held in by many people in the herp industry...as well as the company kept. You were attributed to being a very knowledgable and well spoken person, which of course I had to agree with. And that, despite your tenacity and passion (both of which are unbreakable and admirable), you still remain friendly and smiling through it all.