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im new,very worried

you NEED to get nutribac. Now that he did it a third time, I would wait 14 days or more to feed again. Give him nutribac in his water for at least a week before you feed him. Give him a pinky head (even slit it a bunch) and roll it in nutribac. Once he eats it, leave him be ENTIRELY. Wait to feed for another 10 days, give him another 1/3 of the pinky, also rolled in nutribac. DON'T handle at all. After another 9 days, give him the other 1/3 of the pinky w/ nutribac, then 8 days, 7 days all with 1/3 bits of pinky that is slit and treated with nutribac. Once he's kept all those meals down, you can give him 2/3 of a pinky (two pieces) both treated with nutribac, and then the next week 3/3 of a pinky, with nutribac, and then 1/2 pinky the next week, whole pink slit the next.. you'll need to use the nutribac for at least 6 months. I would hold off on handling until he's kept about 10 meals down.

This is where you buy nutribac
http://cornutopia.com/Corn Utopia o...TS herp Cornutopia corn snakes cornsnakes.htm
 
I'd also say even if it isn't a case of being handled, the regurge could be stress related. How big is the tank, how is the heating set up, how big is the corn, is it all glass? wood? are there any hides? are there any small branches to climb on? What substrate are you using? Was everything in the tank cleaned before putting then in there?

Do you have them near anything that vibrates? I've seen a youtube video about something like this, and it turned out they'd changed their washing machine or something, and the vibration was driving the snake nutso.
 
wowfood said:
I'd also say even if it isn't a case of being handled, the regurge could be stress related. How big is the tank, how is the heating set up, how big is the corn, is it all glass? wood? are there any hides? are there any small branches to climb on? What substrate are you using? Was everything in the tank cleaned before putting then in there?

Do you have them near anything that vibrates? I've seen a youtube video about something like this, and it turned out they'd changed their washing machine or something, and the vibration was driving the snake nutso.
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The problem here is that the snake is a chronic regurger, and it will most likely continue to do so until it dies unless treated with a probiotic (such as nutribac) because the beneficial stomach bacteria has been depleted, causing the snake to be unable to digest. I have used nutribac on a snake that had begun regurging and I followed the regurge protocol and she has not had a single issue since I began using nutribac. Mine started to regurge November 20th, and I waited a week to offer a small and slit food item and she regurged again. So I treated her water with nutribac for a week and began the exact protocol I mentioned above and have had no issues. I did not handle her at all until just this week. I still use nutribac on every food item.
 
Oh i'm not saying that they shouldn't do that also, far from it. All i'm suggesting is alternate reasons for the regurges, or reasons which could contribute towards them.

The snake is bound to be stressed enough from the regurge, and part of the treatment for it is to reduce stress by limiting / eliminating handling. If there are other elements in there which could be contributing to the stress then it would be a good idea to eliminate those also.
 
wowfood said:
Oh i'm not saying that they shouldn't do that also, far from it. All i'm suggesting is alternate reasons for the regurges, or reasons which could contribute towards them.

The snake is bound to be stressed enough from the regurge, and part of the treatment for it is to reduce stress by limiting / eliminating handling. If there are other elements in there which could be contributing to the stress then it would be a good idea to eliminate those also.
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Of course.
 
I am going with the nutribac tips, about to order some now.
He has a stone rock hide on top of a underpad heater(which is controlled) and of course aspen bedding. There is a tree hide on the cool side with branches so he can climb. A water bowl in the very middle. The tank is covered on top sides and back, and it is located in my bedroom with very little to no traffic. I have reduced my handling significantly, and havent botherd him since his has regurge.
The only thing i handle him for is to hold him over his water bowl because i highly doubt he even knows where it is, and worry about him dehydrating.
My last feeding i waited ten days and only gave him a head. This time I am going to wait two weeks with nutribac in his water and absolute no handling.
He did have a normal stool a week ago, then two week prior to that on my hand.
 
kaylarose said:
The only thing i handle him for is to hold him over his water bowl because i highly doubt he even knows where it is, and worry about him dehydrating.
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Glad to hear you are going with the nutribac and that his last stool was normal! If you are worried about him dehydrating, place the water bowl along the edge of the tank (since they usually travel there). If it is any comfort at all, in the couple years I've kept snakes, I've seen (out of the 11) two of them drink, once each.
 
does it matter if the bowl is an inch off the ground will he beable to reach it? He drinks for a good minute when i hold him above it like he hasn't even seen the damn thing.
Haha thanks that does, I mean the other week i saw him simply out of his hide and that in it self was awesome to see.
 
If you are worried that he doesn't know where it is, you can always plop in right in it and let him crawl out and around his cage. When we get baby chickens the first thing we do is dip their beaks in their water so they know where it is. When you say the bowl is an inch off the ground, is that just how high it is? Because that is fine. If it is lifted up and the bottom is not in the cage he might not know where it is.
 
I don't know if any told you yet, but if you put the NutriBAC in the water, you will need to change it out every day.
Also, I might recommend changing the water bowl. It does not sound like a good style for him, if he seems to not be drinking on his own, & only seems to drink when you hold him to the water.
I think every reptile owner should have NutriBAC on hand. Regurges suck.
I hope he recovers for you.
Be sure to follow the regurge protocol that was linked for you, very closely.
 
Try changing its bedding. I find that using newspaper is safe way to have my corn snakes bedding. Its also a fast and easy way to clean the aquarium. Also, remember NOT to hold it at least 24 hours after you feed it and do not hold your corn too much. Holding it too much causes stress. How big is your water bowl?
 
I will try putting the water bowl straight on the bottom of the glass and placing bedding around it, that will make it significantly shorter.
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3973416&lmdn=Reptile

this is his hide he is in 100% of the time.

http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3973412&keepsr=0&clickid=prod_cs

this is his water bowl that is an inch tall, I clean it every day.


I wait 4 days after feeding before handling(that is when he keeps his pinkies down)
I only lift his hide every other day to make sure im not worrying over a dead snake (which i always fear the worst) and to check for the blue stage( which I also havent seen since I purchased him Dec 28)
I have reduced handling to a rare minimum because he seems to be a bit more sketched out and jumpy than my other corn,and ecpecially since he regurged so many times.
:(

I wrote down the exact protocal givin to me, and now im currently waiting for it to arrive in the mail.
 
If he is a baby and with you since dec 28, he most probably is goign into shed now. You might not see it yet, but some corns will throw up if going into shedding and being fed, especially if the prey is on the larger side of what it can have.

edit; since it is has already been three weeks since your first post, ignore the above :p
 
I fed him a head rolled in nutribac, he took it rather well
He's very jumpy though, now I just wait and hope he keeps it..
 
Don't worry, if he hasn't shed its probably because he hasn't been eating. Any chance you could let us know whether they've been keeping their food down since the last regurge?
 
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