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Interest in locality corns.

I have one pair of locality corns. These are locale spacific, DeKalb Co. (NorthEAST, Alabama)

Pic. 1 - Male
Pic. 2 - Female

Walter
:crazy02:BOUT' CORNS !!
 

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My f-1s from WC Hunt club male X WC Dow RD are ready to go this year.:D

I'll be doing a repeat breeding of Landrace Sunkissed X Landrace Lava/ sunkissed this season.
 
I'm guessing, since I live in Montana (nowhere near Alabama) that Sphinx is probably not wild-caught. Just sayin'.

-- Kaifyre
 
I am thinking your very pretty Sphinx will get to look more normal than have the Alabama "look". Wait about a year and we'll give another look see. Hatchlings go through a huge color change. But you never know.. :)

Buzz
 
Really Buzz? I would swear he's an Alabama, he looks EXACTLY like the hatchling both on Ian's Viv and on the earlier photo in this thread .... What is it that makes you think otherwise? (Not being rude, just genuinely curious as to what it was I missed - still trying to learn how to accurately determine morphs.) : )
Thanks, and sorry to hijack this thread! : /

-- Kaifyre
 
And ... back on topic ... Just curious, has anyone found out whether any of the locality morphs are dominant or recessive to "plain 'ole"? i.e. What percentage of normal babies would result from, say, an Alabama x normal pairing?

--Kaifyre
 
Kaifyre said:
Really Buzz? I would swear he's an Alabama, he looks EXACTLY like the hatchling both on Ian's Viv and on the earlier photo in this thread .... What is it that makes you think otherwise?

-- Kaifyre
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Because unless you can trace the snake's ancestors directly back to wild-caught stock, with known origins, it doesn't have a specific locality to label it with.

Which is why you see people calling variations of classics/normals/wild-types Miami phase and Okeetee phase, etc. They have generally been line-bred for generations, improving on one or more characteristics via selective breeding, and outcrossing with other animals to introduce color morphs or for general vitality. Take Miamis- a breeder might want to concentrate on thick black borders, or bright silver background, or a patternless zombie head, or darker red saddles, or the milksnake-phase look. If one is working with Okeetees one might have thicker borders as a goal, or completely black saddles, or brighter red and orange colors.

The Khaki Corn is another cool locality- I've seen him in person- he is gorgeous. Then there was the Golden Corn. Devil's Garden corns. Corns traced to the exact Florida key they were collected on.
 
Nanci, I would love to see Miami Okeetee's... Silver background with thick black borders on the saddles... would be pretty awesome.
 
Kaifyre said:
Really Buzz? I would swear he's an Alabama, he looks EXACTLY like the hatchling both on Ian's Viv and on the earlier photo in this thread .... What is it that makes you think otherwise? (Not being rude, just genuinely curious as to what it was I missed - still trying to learn how to accurately determine morphs.) : )
Thanks, and sorry to hijack this thread! : /

-- Kaifyre
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No rudeness was taken. Alabama start out almost Anery like. Yours has a little to much color in it as of what they "normally" look like. Yours may turn out to have the Alabama "look" (there actually is a lot out there that have a similar look) but truely you can not tell until about a years age. Most Alabamas start out dark, then turn more towards a normal look then start developing the dark in between gray at a later stage usually around a year, hence why I said let see in about a year if he/she has the look :)

As Nanci stated earlier it would be the "look".

"Because unless you can trace the snake's ancestors directly back to wild-caught stock, with known origins, it doesn't have a specific locality to label it with." (Quote from Nanci)

Buzz
 
There are so many morphs out there that I would love to have, but having something like a locality snake, that is not carrying any hets, would be great. About as "pure" as you can get. And, like those Alabamas, they are beautiful... I can't wait to get my hands on a couple...
 
Ooooh. Thanks Buzz and Nanci, that clears it up rather a lot. So if, in a year or so, Sphinx still displays Alabama coloration, we will be able to say that he is an Alabama phase then, yes? That makes sense, since I'm reasonably certain that he didn't come from wild-caught stock.
Thanks for your help, guys!

-- Kaifyre
 
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