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Labeled as 'Black Blood', what is she really?

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kirimoth

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Hi everyone!

I'm a long-time herp enthusiast, but new snake owner!

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This girl is 2-3 years old, very sweet and docile but very active, and while I'm not planning to breed her I'm curious about what her morph is. She was labeled as a 'Black Blood' at the local vivarium where I bought her about a week ago, which I'm assuming is Anery Bloodred/Diffused?

Is she also a Granite or Pewter, or are those something distinct from the Anery Bloodred?

Her coloring is completely grey and black, no yellow anywhere, and her eyes are solid black. These photos were taken in natural light, so the color is pretty true to life.

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Thanks for your help!
 
I'm a cornsnake noob, so take my hypothesis with a grain of salt. It doesn't look like an Anery (because that's the one I have, and he's got as much brown as he has black, and the yellow neck... ), but it does look a bit like Charcoal, except charcoal has more defined edges and has belly checkering, so... Charcoal diffused? Or maybe Anery Charcoal Diffused, because Charcoals all seem to be lighter than that to me in pictures. But Charcoal Diffused would look very similar to that and have the white belly.

-Travis
 
Agreed on both counts! :)

I especially like the face. I'm a sucker for the darker black cornsnakes (all the light ones look the same to me!). The nearly black eyes and white snout are a super cool contrast.

-Travis
 
Thanks, guys! I love her face, too, it's a large part of why I had to have her. :)

On another forum a couple people suggested Anery Motley? Too many options!
But yeah, she definitely has no yellow or brown, her gray is almost a blueish tone.
 
No, definitely not anery motley. I was waffling between pewter and granite. Most of the pewters/charcoals I've *personally* seen just look 'different' to this girl, but that doesn't mean she isn't. Anery is simply more common (when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not szebras) and if it was labelled as a 'black' bloodred then it's probably a granite.
 
No.... no they're not. q-tips have q-tip shaped marks, not bow-ties. And the saddles are like that because the bottom edges are diffused, not because of motley.
 
There are bow-tie motleys, and q-tip motleys, and pinstripe motleys, and hurricane motleys and just plain motleys. q-tips and bow-tie are not the same visually, hence the different names.
 
The morph is motley. The descriptors describe how the motley pattern manifests.

Bow-tie and Q-tip do not look the same, and are not the same visually, though genetically they are identical.

The OPs snake is not displaying *any* motley traits.
 
Thank you, everyone, for your input! (And sorry about ditching the thread, I wasn't getting notifications and didn't realize I had replies!)

BUT...the plot thickens. I went back to the vivarium where I got her, and finally managed to catch someone with more knowledge of her (she'd been there for a couple years, so some of the newer employees weren't around when she was originally purchased).
They said that she's a plasma/lavender bloodred!

Can a plasma corn snake be this dark? All the pics I've seen of them made me think they were light colored.

Here's another picture of her, taken outside so the color is more true to life:

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