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Kokopelli said:
Well, first off there are no cornsnakes in your post so that's the wrong board for this to be in.
Beyond that, snakes with two heads generally suffer quite a bit, few of them reaching adulthood- their neck vertebrates tend to break quite a bit- all in all it's a pretty pitiful existence... one I wouldn't be so excited about anyways.
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All I can say is wow... you have some amazing social skills. Someone post pictures of something actually interesting and you really go and crap on it. Way to go. I love people that just have to go out and sour everything. :awcrap:

Now if the post was "Hey come buy my 2 headed snakes that I specialize in breeding" ok then your post would have been appropriate. But no it wasn't. You know what I would be excited about? Next time think about what a downer you are being to someones thread before posting your reply.
 
Well, first off there are no cornsnakes in your post so that's the wrong board for this to be in.
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General Chit-Chat Forum :
Discussion about general topics that are really off topic concerning corn snakes, or just about any old chit at all.

Thats right I forgot you're a moderator... oh wait...
 
Kokopelli said:
Well, first off there are no cornsnakes in your post so that's the wrong board for this to be in.
Beyond that, snakes with two heads generally suffer quite a bit, few of them reaching adulthood- their neck vertebrates tend to break quite a bit- all in all it's a pretty pitiful existence... one I wouldn't be so excited about anyways.
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=] Eeks! That means quite a few people that posted pictures of their other snakes/pets are in a world of trouble, too.
 
MalinoisK9 said:
All I can say is wow... you have some amazing social skills. Someone post pictures of something actually interesting and you really go and crap on it. Way to go. I love people that just have to go out and sour everything. :awcrap:

Now if the post was "Hey come buy my 2 headed snakes that I specialize in breeding" ok then your post would have been appropriate. But no it wasn't. You know what I would be excited about? Next time think about what a downer you are being to someones thread before posting your reply.
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I am so very sorry that the suffering of animals is a "downer" to you... Personally I simply do not view animals as instruments for my amusement. I know this defect takes a horrible toll on the animal. I (mistakenly I now guess) thought that a person who surfs here and cares about snakes would want to know such things but... nope, I guess you just want to be entertained

Beyond that, I am not going to actually dignify that post with further reply.
 
MalinoisK9 said:
General Chit-Chat Forum :
Discussion about general topics that are really off topic concerning corn snakes, or just about any old chit at all.

Thats right I forgot you're a moderator... oh wait...
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Yeah... only mods should encourage people to bide by the rules... right.
 
Good lord Oren! They were not propagating the animal in anyway! They found it interesting! That is not a sin! You seem to feel so high and mighty about this calm down. Damn and I thought I got mad!
 
Oh my! Call the press! Apparently there isn't a difference between interesting and exploiting for amusement! I don't know how this could have been mixed up! Thank goodness you are around to explain the difference. I'm going to stop watching the Discovery, History, and National Geographic channel because apparently they are just traveling freak shows! I feel so bad now for ever looking at something "interesting".. wait I'm sorry "heartlessly exploiting".

Enforcing what rule? You apparently can't even read what each forum is for. I guess before ever posting again I'll just ask you where each thread should go because apparently what the forum says is wrong.

What a joke.
 
MalinoisK9 said:
Oh my! Call the press! Apparently there isn't a difference between interesting and exploiting for amusement! I don't know how this could have been mixed up! Thank goodness you are around to explain the difference. I'm going to stop watching the Discovery, History, and National Geographic channel because apparently they are just traveling freak shows! I feel so bad now for ever looking at something "interesting".. wait I'm sorry "heartlessly exploiting".

Enforcing what rule? You apparently can't even read what each forum is for. I guess before ever posting again I'll just ask you where each thread should go because apparently what the forum says is wrong.

What a joke.
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You are so arrogant and self absorbed that you didn't stop to think that this thread -maybe- started somewhere else. It was over at "misc CORN SNAKE discussion".
The mods simply moved the thread here.

There are -many- interesting things that are also cruel- experiments on animals... Biology is -fascinating-, but it's also done on the expanse of the animal, generating -alot- of suffering.
I do not advocate misery because it is entertaining.
So yes- some "interesting" things happen with a great cost, and misery, and it's not something to ignore or forget.
I couldn't care less what your personal tastes are in regards to interesting- This is a forum for people who find snakes interesting but ALSO CARE for their well being.
As you are so intent on your "interest" that you would rather ignore what are the implications are for encouraging it- that's your problem. I do not feel any sort of need to bend to your whims and interests. This forum is not yours.

as for the rule comment:
You had no idea where this thread was first published, but you have no problem with accusing everyone and speaking in a manner I associate with 12 year old brats at best without getting all your facts straight.

You accuse me of having bad social skills, well at least I don't run around accussing people of things they didn't do, let alone use the tone you allow yourself to use.

Allow me to correct any false impression you may have had- I really am not here to cater to your whims, and up to this point I am unimpressed, and that's an understatement with who you are.
 
I also find it fascinatingly amusing that you would criticize me for asking someone to abide to the written rules of this forums and in the same breath try and control what content I choose to include in my posts because it's a "downer" to you.
 
Kaminoke said:
Interesting note, the guy that produced that bearded dragon I posted earlier has had a few two-headed ones, this was just the only that lived long enough to sell. He keeps breeding the same female, and she regularly throws twins, including periodic conjoined twins. Most are dead in the egg. He keeps breeding her intentionally trying to make more two-headed dragons, despite the rather hot debate on whether or not he should do this and whether it's genetics or a problem with the female's reproductive system causing the high rate of occurrences.
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Now, that's gruesome. I may not know much about reptiles but that's cruel. I mean, if she regularly threw healthy twins, I ~could~ see that. But if she throws a lot of dead babies & deformed babies, that is just cruel.

I find this stuff fascinating because it sheds light on development & how it works. After all, all of us vertebrates start off as one unspecialized cell, a fertilized egg, and turn into us.

But intentionally breeding for it is just wrong.
 
I don't see how Oren finding bicephalic animals sad is an excuse to insult him. That's just downright rude IMO. He has the right to express his opinion and not to agree that it's 'cool'. And why ask if his breakfast has been urinated in? Usual practice in some households? His posts weren't overly emotional, unlike the nasty replies.
 
Kokopelli said:
Well, first off there are no cornsnakes in your post so that's the wrong board for this to be in.
Beyond that, snakes with two heads generally suffer quite a bit, few of them reaching adulthood- their neck vertebrates tend to break quite a bit- all in all it's a pretty pitiful existence... one I wouldn't be so excited about anyways.
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This is the post thats causing all this fuss?
come on now folks. He knows his stuff, and explained why he did not enjoy the pics. PERHAPS it was a little cold, but so what? further on he goes on to explain he was tempering the 'oh look cool' reaction with some real life, which is often a little sad.
Some people find it interesting, some people do not. again, i have to ask: so what? these are opinions for discussion, not a basis for personal attack.
So he didnt like the pictures and had a strong opinion on the subject. That doesnt mean 'someone pissed on his breakfast', it doesnt mean hes not a nice person, and it doesnt mean that the OP isnt welcome here.
ALL it means is what it says. He wouldnt be excited about a two headed snake.

as for all the comments based on the 'your not a mod' theme...they are out of place. it comes out sounding like 'your not the boss of me, nah nah nah" and i'm sure thats not the effect you wanted.

To me, personal attacks are what keeps 'discussions' and 'arguments' sepperate.
i come here for discussions. not arguments.
 
Meh, I think Oren's tone and way of conveying information is just different than everyone else's, and it can come off as caustic at times. However, I know it's not intentional, and everyone IS entitled to their own opinion and allowed to convey it in their own voice.

I found it interesting because I'd never seen such a thing before. I still would like to witness it in real life for the novelty. I do not advocate breeding such animals or purchasing a two-headed animal from a breeder that breeds for the mutation. I see nothing wrong with posting a thread about snakes on a snake-forum. It's no different than the threads I've seen on "scaleless" varieties - those are mutated too and probably suffer as a result of their mutation, which is commonly bred for. Yet they're still a novelty, and still worthy of discussion. Information should not be censored.

I am sorry for placing the post in the wrong place originally - I'm somewhat new. Peace brothers.
 
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