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Morph ID? Pic heavy

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Malatryx

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I have this snake that I am curious about what morph he is. He was given to me. I have had 3 different morphs thrown at me as to what he is so I'd like to ask here. His colours are kinda off in the pics but there are a wide assortment of pics. If you need any certain shots let me know! His eyes are reddish brown and black centers

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He's either an anery motley, or a ghost motley. He's kind of on the border between both morphs.
 
I would lean towards anery motley simply due to the eye color described. I have sibling anery motley's from a very reputable breeder, the female is no doubt an anery as is the male as it was VERY clear at hatching and the first few months and now he is a very pinky/purpley black, I wouldn't even begin to guess he was an anery if I didn't know any better, so it just goes to show how much the shades can vary even in a "simple" anery. ;)
 
A very pretty anery motley! I would expect a ghost motley to be much lighter, especially a male.
 
Yeah, I say anery motley as well, ...especially with it being a male.


~Doug
 
I'm not 100 % on it being a male. It's just what I was told.
The person i picked it up from said it was sold to him as a Blue Motley, someone else said Pastel Motley and another said Anery. I'm going to try and get some nicer shots of him if i can. Hard with a large snake that won't sit still lol.
I'll be getting him probed in August to make sure (end of quarantine)
 
Malatryx said:
I'm not 100 % on it being a male. It's just what I was told.
The person i picked it up from said it was sold to him as a Blue Motley, someone else said Pastel Motley and another said Anery. I'm going to try and get some nicer shots of him if i can. Hard with a large snake that won't sit still lol.
I'll be getting him probed in August to make sure (end of quarantine)
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Yeah, Why I said that was because of the one tail pic you posted. It does look to not taper much and stay the same thickness for a while, but in the photo the tail looks a bit short too, but that could just be from the false depth perception of the camera photo. when parts of an object are pointing to, or away from the camera, it can often give a false perception of length.

If you could post another good pic or two of the tail from underneath from tip to vent pulled straight out in front of the camera in the same plane, it would be very easy to tell what sex it is.


~Doug
 
I'm also unaware of how old he is exactly. He weight about 324 grams but was missing for 3 months before he was given to me. I have him in a sealed tub just cuz i know he's an escape artist!
 
Malatryx said:
The person i picked it up from said it was sold to him as a Blue Motley, someone else said Pastel Motley and another said Anery.
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All 3 of those morphs are anery based so that is totally agreed upon. "Pastel motley" is a term used primarily for ghost motleys that are very peachy in color. Some breeders use the term "pastel" to describe any anery based morph that has that peachy color which tends to get confusing to some. While your anery motley is colorful, I wouldn't use the term "pastel" in his description if he was mine as he just isn't peachy enough.

As for being a blue motley (dilute anery motley), in some of the photos, I can see where someone might think that. However, in others, he doesn't look like a dilute to me. That one will be easy for you to rule out or not the next time he sheds. A dilute will have a clear shed, like an amel or a snow. A non-dilute anery will show pigment, especially where the saddles are, in the shed skin.
 
I do have a shed from him but only the bottom part near the vent as he made an ungodly mess of the top part (pooped in it). Next time he sheds I will hopefully be able to grab the full thing.
Either way I don't care what he is. AS of right now I have no plans whatsoever on breeding but people will ask me his morph from time to time. He's an amazing snake, I plan on using him in educational events the local society puts on. I've only been able to startle him once and I wasn't even trying. I've even come up to his head quickly and at times grabbed it with no reaction. Only reason I'm doing this is kids can sometimes try and grab and I'd rather he bit me instead of a kid.
I'll try to get some pics of him in natural sunlight. The flash was used in the bright ones. Suggested background colour?

Susan said:
All 3 of those morphs are anery based so that is totally agreed upon. "Pastel motley" is a term used primarily for ghost motleys that are very peachy in color. Some breeders use the term "pastel" to describe any anery based morph that has that peachy color which tends to get confusing to some. While your anery motley is colorful, I wouldn't use the term "pastel" in his description if he was mine as he just isn't peachy enough.

As for being a blue motley (dilute anery motley), in some of the photos, I can see where someone might think that. However, in others, he doesn't look like a dilute to me. That one will be easy for you to rule out or not the next time he sheds. A dilute will have a clear shed, like an amel or a snow. A non-dilute anery will show pigment, especially where the saddles are, in the shed skin.
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