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Morph ID

Here she is on 12/20, weighing in at 50 grams...

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Definitely charcoal (anery B) in there!!! i have a phantom & an Ultramel charcoal. I'm no expert by a long shot..but....i see a phantom in amongst the other genes!
 
I won this girl at the Daytona dinner raffle. Stephen Wagner produced her by crossing two Caramels het Hypo Amel. I believe one of the grandparents was from his "Mystery line." Stephen's best guess was Caramel Phantom, but hypothesized that Lavender may also be causing her odd appearance.

She has blue/grey eyes with red pupils...I'll double check that tomorrow. What has a yellow nose and pink cheeks? :shrugs:

I know only breeding trials will say for sure, but what are your guesses on this girl's genetics?

Artificial light
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Natural light/shade
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I've seen Anery A's with yellow noses & pink cheeks. maybe Ultramel-anery phantom butter??? LOL thats my guess! :):sidestep:
 
I see a little, not a lot, but a little...pink. Maybe het strawberry...until proven otherwise...

EDIT : I was jesting, not really serious. Josh I will remove this tangential jocularity altogether at your request.
 
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Um, if it weren't for the borders on the saddles progressively getting darker I would say hypo lav just off appearance, but I have no clue. With her slow growth rate I have to ask, what size and how often is she fed?
 
She's 80 grams now...eating 2 fuzzies, once a week. She was only 24 grams when I got her back in August.
 
wow, she did a lot of growing for you. I have a girl about that weight and age on weanlings, so you are doing good :) I hope I did not sound as if I implied you were not feeding her right, just curious really.
 
Actually the mystery line all started with Vinnie aka Vinman. Rich Hume had purchased some f-1 babies from Richie. If you do a search you will find several threads on them.
Here is a male from that line. I bred him to two females and he is proven homo Lavender & Caramel/het hypo,bloodred, amel, and anery a or b testing for that.
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f-1 produced by Vinman from the hypo lavender bloodred that started this line.
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The last pic is of a f-1 adult male from Vinnie's original breeding that I aquired in 2008.
I doubt that strawberry is the hypo involved in this line.
 
Are there two Mystery lines? I thought Steve Wagner's line was different from Vinnie/Rich's line. It's all the same genes, so maybe I'm wrong.

That's a good looking Caramel Lav, Tom! I need his twin to prove her out next year. ;)
 
Tom, so what do you call that homo lavender, homo caramel male? Is there a name for that combination.
To look at I would not have been able to guess either. The head (eyes and nose coloration) would suggest lavender influence to me.

Beautiful snake, though.
 
Are there two Mystery lines? I thought Steve Wagner's line was different from Vinnie/Rich's line. It's all the same genes, so maybe I'm wrong.

I'm certain Stephen will tell you the animals he has came from Rich.

That's a good looking Caramel Lav, Tom! I need his twin to prove her out next year. ;)

Thanks! Hopefully Vinman will ad some input to this thread. I know that everything started with some animals Vinnie got from Rich Z.
 
So Tom, would you guess my girl is Caramel Lav or Caramel Charcoal (strictly an educated guess)? I want to believe she is homo Hypo too...
 
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