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Mother, Boyfriend Charged in Death of Florida Toddler Strangled by Python

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Mother, Boyfriend Charged in Death of Florida Toddler Strangled by Python

Tuesday , August 25, 2009

AP

OXFORD, Fla. —
Authorities say the mother of a Florida girl suffocated by a pet python last month has been charged in the child's death.

The Sumter County Sheriff's Office says 19-year-old Jaren Ashley Hare and her boyfriend, 32-year-old Charles Jason Darnell, were each charged Monday with manslaughter, third-degree murder and child abuse.

Two-year-old Shaianna Hare died July 1. Authorities say Darnell found the 8-foot python wrapped around her that morning.

He stabbed it several times and it eventually released her. A medical examiner determined the girl died from asphyxiation.

Hare and Darnell were each being held on $35,000 bond. Court documents that would list attorneys for them have not yet been processed.
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From what I heard in earlier reports he did not use a secure lid just a sac with some rope so I believe they would have been charged even with the proper permit since he did not properly secure a potentially dangerous animal.
 
CrazyCorn said:
From what I heard in earlier reports he did not use a secure lid just a sac with some rope so I believe they would have been charged even with the proper permit since he did not properly secure a potentially dangerous animal.
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Agreed, I read the same story about the sack and rope....
But no permit gives the authorities room to manoeuvre in a case that has public interest...
 
I think they'd have done the same thing with the permit too Mike. The permit is a permit to keep the snake, endangering your child with it- well, it is what it is. Though maybe to get the permit, they'd have had to show proper caging- in which case they would have been keeping the snake right..
 
The law is too tricky for me to have a solid opinion on this. Negligence should certainly be considered a form of manslaughter, but I'm confused by how much gray area the law has. Parents don't usually get charged for a child using a household weapon, and doing harm to themselves or others, so what exactly is the line?
 
snakewispera snr said:
Agreed, I read the same story about the sack and rope....
But no permit gives the authorities room to manoeuvre in a case that has public interest...
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Actually, part of the permit process covers adequate housing. You have to sign stating that the animal is housed in an appropriately sized cage, (dimensions given according to width and length of snake), and that there is an additional safety containment area to prevent escapes, (space between the first and second door to cage, or locked, escape proof room that the cage is in).
 
Oh, and I'm sure they'll end up pleading out to negligence and child abuse, unless the state wants to make an example of them...
 
I heard it this morning....

I do have to wonder how a murder charge was the end decision. But it is third degree murder not far from manslaughter. If the snake had been properly caged and had managed to escape we wouldn't see charges filed.

Also in the state of Florida any animal, native or not, that can be legally kept in the state has certain cage requirements. Most don't realize this. Including Corn snakes. You can contact FWC and they will send you a huge stack of papers with the requirements.
 
I'm not shocked though saying they didn't cage the animal securely seems impossible to determine and even so how many snake owners have an escape from time to time? Its sad and unfortunate but negligence seems more appropriate.
 
The snake had escaped earlier that evening and instead of making sure it was contained, they just put a bag and a rope over its cage and went to bed!!!
 
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Michael823 said:
The law is too tricky for me to have a solid opinion on this. Negligence should certainly be considered a form of manslaughter, but I'm confused by how much gray area the law has. Parents don't usually get charged for a child using a household weapon, and doing harm to themselves or others, so what exactly is the line?
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Yes, parents can be and have been charged and convicted of many degrees of crimes by allowing a child access to dangerous weapons within the home. If you keep guns where a child can get to them and that child uses one to harm or kill themself or someone else, the parent's are responsible in some regard. There's not a lot of grey area.
 
Nanci said:
The snake had escaped earlier that evening and instead of making sure it was contained, they just put a bag and a rope over its cage and went to bed!!!
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Based on this info. I think justice is served! What the heck were they thinking? My wife is the large snake person in the family having an 8-9' boa for 17 years now...Never escaped.

Not saying snakes are dumb, but you have to be smarter than the snake!
 
I think the word attorney is spelled with gray ink. So is the legal system. I think when you knowingly put a child in a potentially lethal situation that results in the child’s death, you are liable. But that is common sense speaking which has no place in the courtroom.
 
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Well put....

dionythicus said:
Yes, parents can be and have been charged and convicted of many degrees of crimes by allowing a child access to dangerous weapons within the home. If you keep guns where a child can get to them and that child uses one to harm or kill themself or someone else, the parent's are responsible in some regard. There's not a lot of grey area.
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There was a case a few years ago where two middle school kids hid outside their school and picked off their chums. One child had only to reach under his grandfathers bed to obtain a firearm. The other had to break into his fathers gunsafe. The grandfather was charged with the death of chums, the father wasn't.

Wade well done, and love the tagline.
 
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