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Motley and Striped Tessera het Amel Cinder Babies
- Thread starter Nanci
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Chip
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Happy about the big healthy babies, but odd no amels OR stripes. Beyond odd... Then again, I had a het ghost tessera to a homo anery het hypo with 22 babies this year an NO normals. So I guess it's possible. I mean, I *know* it's possible, but I still worry.
multicorn
New member
Hi Nanci
I am not sure if any of those tessera are striped ..
some of my het stripe look identical (although all off spring are different)
Also the motley looks like a motley non tessera...
I will take a picture of what I believe to be the difference between the two..!
I'm not being negative like we get from time to time.. Is there any chance the parent isn't het amel ???
although as chip said I hatched 23 eggs this year from a visual motley x het motley 22 motley 1 normal.... so it's possible to get the opposite..!!!
to be honest I prefer het stripe tessera to stripe tessera they have so much more visually...
Amazing clutch I can't wait to see your F2 on this project
I am not sure if any of those tessera are striped ..
some of my het stripe look identical (although all off spring are different)
Also the motley looks like a motley non tessera...
I will take a picture of what I believe to be the difference between the two..!
I'm not being negative like we get from time to time.. Is there any chance the parent isn't het amel ???
although as chip said I hatched 23 eggs this year from a visual motley x het motley 22 motley 1 normal.... so it's possible to get the opposite..!!!
to be honest I prefer het stripe tessera to stripe tessera they have so much more visually...
Amazing clutch I can't wait to see your F2 on this project
multicorn
New member
Hahaha your right the het is there then...!!! Odds aren't fair sometimes huh????
multicorn
New member
Nanci
Alien Lover
I know! Who says snakes can't be expressive!
Nanci
Alien Lover
At least we will be able to say the babies are 100% het (amel cinder) stripe, thanks to Heart Attack. This is exactly why I like keeping Stripe and Motley separated, to the best of my ability.
fyrefocks
Nate lover
I'd be less confused about my own kids, but out of 17 eggs, I only got 5 tesseras and none of them are classically patterned. All 5 of them turned out to be trundlefarts.
multicorn
New member
Hi nanci
Ok again theory time (I have based my holdbacks on my theory I hope i'm right)
I noticed a difference in motley and what I believe motley Tessera ..
this is I believe a motley Tessera
notice that the further down 'most' motleys start to connect the ventral to the lateral pattern..
where this one doesn't until the usual Tessera vent split..
really only a theory but man I hope it's correct...!!!
Just one thing Though you said the mating is stripe x het stripe.. Why are there definite motley ???? which one did that sneak in from ???
Amazing hatchlings have you noticed the het cinders are darker than usual ????
Ok again theory time (I have based my holdbacks on my theory I hope i'm right)
I noticed a difference in motley and what I believe motley Tessera ..
this is I believe a motley Tessera
notice that the further down 'most' motleys start to connect the ventral to the lateral pattern..
where this one doesn't until the usual Tessera vent split..
really only a theory but man I hope it's correct...!!!
Just one thing Though you said the mating is stripe x het stripe.. Why are there definite motley ???? which one did that sneak in from ???
Amazing hatchlings have you noticed the het cinders are darker than usual ????
Nanci
Alien Lover
The sire is a stripe. The dam is a tessera, who was purchased as het amel, het stripe. I have no idea how motley snuck in there! Can't be from the father's side. The dam is one of the earlier generations of Tessera- I don't know when motley first snuck in [to Tessera lines], but if the early foundation dams brought in to create many new Tessera mutants had motley as a het or poss het- it seems likely that without actual pedigrees being kept (or even with!) motley could sneak in quite easily and go unnoticed for generations.
HerpsOfNM
My name's Blurryface...
To add confusion on the motley/stripe tessera thing...
The striped butter tessera (jury still out too???) I popped out this year is from a striped butter (Colorado Corns) x striped tessera het butter motley (SMR...AGAIN, this is what the deli cup label was for the snake on Don's table at the Feb Arlington NARBC).
The siblings to that animal are a normal caramel het striped albino and a caramel tessera het striped albino). Unfortunately for me, the dam's sample set was small at only 3 eggs but was also her first season. She was paired with her at 310g, I probably could/should have waited until 2014.
Interesting babies either way Nanci!
The striped butter tessera (jury still out too???) I popped out this year is from a striped butter (Colorado Corns) x striped tessera het butter motley (SMR...AGAIN, this is what the deli cup label was for the snake on Don's table at the Feb Arlington NARBC).
The siblings to that animal are a normal caramel het striped albino and a caramel tessera het striped albino). Unfortunately for me, the dam's sample set was small at only 3 eggs but was also her first season. She was paired with her at 310g, I probably could/should have waited until 2014.
Interesting babies either way Nanci!