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New executive order - all information systems now belong to the government

I know what I will be consumed with when I get off of work!
 
Everything the government does these days seems pretty scary, and preparation for something "bigger" to come. BUT - both the story and the White House release are a year old, from 2012. I am not sure what has transpired since that time on this subject.
 
Has anyone told that guy that he wasn't voted into the office of KING of the USA?
 
Like most things politics these days, I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Not as bad as people on the right wish it was, not as benign as those on the left think it is.
 
Like most things politics these days, I'm sure the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Not as bad as people on the right wish it was, not as benign as those on the left think it is.

Why do you feel that "people on the right" would "wish" things were bad?
 
Why do you feel that "people on the right" would "wish" things were bad?

By wishing things bad, I mean bad for Obama (by no means saying they, or anyone from either side wants bad things for the country).

It's no different than when Bush was in office. The other side looks for anything and everything to attack the POTUS with. I do think it's reached a new level under Obama, but I have no doubt it will be that much worse whenever we have the next GOP POTUS. It's an arm race to sling the most mud and hope anything will stick.

It's funny the short memory our politicians have. They cry foul for anything that hurts their side, and then turn around and do the same thing to the other side if it benefits them.
 
I've been doing quite a bit of heavy research and I do firmly believe that there is no actual "side", it's just a way to keep the general American public preoccupied with what doesn't matter. Ultimately, Obama and Bush made similar decisions and the ball is rolling down the same hill; on the same course.

All of the politicians have the same goals or "overall agenda" for the most part, which is ultimately a One World Government. Case in point - Both Bush AND Kerry are part of an organization (from Yale University) called 'Skull and Bones' and yet, they ran against each other (essentially, the agenda would have been the same no matter who we voted into office).
Skull and Bones is extremely secretive in what they do but most anyone of influence and power come out of that group - i.e. CEOs of some of the most powerful companies, Presidents, even leaders of the press (go figure). Oh and guess who else... the Obama administration's economic adviser chairman, Austan Goolsbee.
There's a lot of planning in this, and it ultimately benefits them and not us.
Do you really think that there's actually "republican" and/or "democrat"? Do you *really* think you have a say in who gets voted into where? Maybe it's already planned by someone who can afford much better and stronger 'strings' than the rest of us normal average every-day folk.

I implore you to research. Illuminate. Skull and Bones. Corporate Agendas. Anonymous. Historical trends and reasons for decisions now. Things such as Project Mk Ultra.
You don't have to believe anything I say, just do research. The truth is staggering and unbelievable. People are sheep and that's what they rely on.

What once used to be considered silly "conspiracy theories" isn't so much anymore.

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Unfortunately, I believe you are mostly right. I see each party and each candidate professing differences in philosophy, but then they pretty much ALL do whatever it takes to make the government bigger and more powerful. Not a lot of difference.
 
Unfortunately, I believe you are mostly right. I see each party and each candidate professing differences in philosophy, but then they pretty much ALL do whatever it takes to make the government bigger and more powerful. Not a lot of difference.

The scary part for me, is the rumor (and just rumor at this point) that the ultimate aim or goal is not for our sake but for mass genocide. Many of these higher elites feel that the world is over populated and they want to give themselves the right to 'pick and choose'.
I don't know if I believe that, or want to believe it. If it's true, it will be too late when we find out I'm sure.
What's interesting is that Prince Charles said something that alluded to this a while back that we need to "cull" the Surplus Population - that the human population has reached plague proportions.
 
I've been doing quite a bit of heavy research and I do firmly believe that there is no actual "side", it's just a way to keep the general American public preoccupied with what doesn't matter. Ultimately, Obama and Bush made similar decisions and the ball is rolling down the same hill; on the same course.

*ding* *ding* *ding* We have a winner! You've got it exactly right. The term for this is "bread and circus" and is designed to keep us busy, if not fat and happy.
 
Well, all things considered, I really don't see putting the government in charge of our health system as a GOOD thing. After all, is it really in THEIR best interests to have us living longer healthier lives after we are no longer tax payers and collecting from the entitlement programs that were promised and paid into while being taxpayers?
 
Well, all things considered, I really don't see putting the government in charge of our health system as a GOOD thing. After all, is it really in THEIR best interests to have us living longer healthier lives after we are no longer tax payers and collecting from the entitlement programs that were promised and paid into while being taxpayers?
On top of that can anyone really name a program run by the fedgov that is efficient, sustainable, and good in general for ALL Americans? :shrugs:
 
...after we are no longer tax payers and collecting from the entitlement programs that were promised and paid into while being taxpayers?

Minor quibble: it's not an entitlement program if you paid into it. If you have term life insurance, you pay a bit each month for x years. At the end, if it pays you, it pays much more because of the interest earned. Same principle for Social Security: I've paid into it all my life, and what I get back out will be what I paid plus interest. So definitely NOT an "entitlement".
 
Yes, I have a real problem with politicians always grouping benefits you have earned through prior payments, such as social security, in with benefits the recipients DID NOT pay for, such as any kind of welfare or Medicaid. I am NOT saying that all of those are good or bad - just saying that they are DIFFERENT, and should not be lumped together as if they are all the same "entitlements". I always wonder why enough people aren't bothered by this that they don't demand a different categorization by our elected leaders.
 
Well, all things considered, I really don't see putting the government in charge of our health system as a GOOD thing. After all, is it really in THEIR best interests to have us living longer healthier lives after we are no longer tax payers and collecting from the entitlement programs that were promised and paid into while being taxpayers?

I don't necessarily think Obamacare is the answer, but our healthcare system is broken. We spend more per capita than any other industrialized nation, yet have much worse outcomes to show for it.
 
Minor quibble: it's not an entitlement program if you paid into it. If you have term life insurance, you pay a bit each month for x years. At the end, if it pays you, it pays much more because of the interest earned. Same principle for Social Security: I've paid into it all my life, and what I get back out will be what I paid plus interest. So definitely NOT an "entitlement".

Actually I meant the word "entitlement" to be used in it's most LITERAL sense in the context of my statement. People who EARNED the benefits of such programs ARE entitled to them.
 
I don't necessarily think Obamacare is the answer, but our healthcare system is broken. We spend more per capita than any other industrialized nation, yet have much worse outcomes to show for it.

The easiest and best way to do that would be to get the government OUT of the health care system completely and allow market forces to reach it's own level. It's beginning to appear that the insurance industry is running the government instead of the other way around. The insurance industry is already violating laws prohibiting discriminatory practices at every turn, and have somehow twisted arms such that people are REQUIRED to buy their products. You can't legally drive on tax payer paid for roadways without having auto insurance, and if you take out a loan for a dwelling, you are REQUIRED by the lenders to have home insurance. Now we are being forced to have health insurance or have to pay a substantial tax penalty.

Seriously, what other business would not just LOVE to have this same sort of leverage to market their products to the public?
 
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