BrandNew
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If or when i bully someone i dont think it makes me fell good. To tell you the truth when you bully someone you dont know why you do it you just do..
but if it dose make you fell good then i would count that as being sick..
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Nine teens charged with bullying in teen's suicide
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If or when i bully someone i dont think it makes me fell good. To tell you the truth when you bully someone you dont know why you do it you just do..
but if it dose make you fell good then i would count that as being sick..
Carinata
Ever Evolving Exotics
It does count as being sick, twisted, unhinged, out of touch with society, and everything inbetween. How can you defend bullying someone?
Dinah
New member
First of all she did tell, and the administration did little if anything, so she did try to get help.
Second the charges they are facing are "statutory rape, violation of civil rights with bodily injury resulting, criminal harassment, and disturbing a school assembly." And yes some of those charges should include jail time
Third, so does this mean I should assume that you are revising your statement and that now you do indeed think that kids should be exempt from at least some laws? Harassment is a crime as are the other things listed and yet you say that they should not face charges. So could you please clarify your position?
Fourth these bullies are not my kids and if they were I would attend school with my kids everyday if that is what it took to ensure that they were minding their manners, they would not get grounded for 4 pathetic days, they would be grounded until I was POSITIVE that I could trust them to behave properly in public again. They would no longer have a facebook account or even access to the internet unless I was sitting with them, phones, television, wii, toys, music, everything would be cleared from their rooms. At my house grounded means you have a bed with sheets and a blanket as well as 3 meals per day and some books of my choosing and that is it. Being respectful to people ALL PEOPLE is the very foundation of our whole value structure at least in my family anyways. Since their parents didn't teach them how to treat others, and since the school failed to stop the problem (I see schools as kind of like the last line of defense), and since their behavior was allowed to continue and continue, it has now sadly become a law enforcement problem. I do think these kids should face charges even if they had been my kids. Because nobody else was willing to teach them and make them behave properly, now it has gotten so bad that they will have to learn it themselves the hard way. To be honest if the bully's parents knew and didn't do anything they should also face charges as an accomplice the same with the school, the officials that did not follow the policy in place to protect her should also be charged.
Humans should be treated with dignity and respect and nobody should be willing to allow anything less than that. You don't have to like someone or get along with them, you are welcome to avoid interacting with people who you don't like or who bother you, but at no point is being mean and nasty acceptable. Don't get me wrong I am ok with debating, and not agreeing, and arguing, and all of that stuff so its not like I think everyone has to always agree all the time, but there is s difference between all of that and being cruel, mean, bullying, and harassing.
luckycharm318
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BrandNew,
What would you do if you were raped, harassed, and stalked by six older kids and no one did anything to stop it even after you told adults and tried to get help?
What would you do if you were raped, harassed, and stalked by six older kids and no one did anything to stop it even after you told adults and tried to get help?
Michael823
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The truth is that "Bullies" are the MOST insecure human beings on the face of the earth. I realized that quickly, so I always felt like I had the edge when someone making fun of me. However, everyone is different, and for some people, bullying can be traumatic enough for them to commit suicide. It's abuse, plain and simple, and constant abuse just leaves people worn down and defeated, sometimes to the point where life just doesn't seem worth it to them anymore.
Also, a lot of us also didn't have the cyber world to contend with as kids. It seems like an instantaneous way for someone to be targeted on a massive scale at the click of a button. It also creates a way for people to bully/be bullied even in the comfort of their own home, where typically the bullied children should at least have the escape of the privacy of their own home.
I feel that the bullies and teachers who allowed it should be held responsible, as school is mandatory, and children should feel free to be themselves without being targeted and abused, as well as the parents of the children who caused the bullying.
Also, a lot of us also didn't have the cyber world to contend with as kids. It seems like an instantaneous way for someone to be targeted on a massive scale at the click of a button. It also creates a way for people to bully/be bullied even in the comfort of their own home, where typically the bullied children should at least have the escape of the privacy of their own home.
I feel that the bullies and teachers who allowed it should be held responsible, as school is mandatory, and children should feel free to be themselves without being targeted and abused, as well as the parents of the children who caused the bullying.
BrandNew
New member
Sorry to be blunt but i wouldnt kill myself...
Michael823
New member
Good question, however, it's almost impossible to answer. Everyone is different, and only experiencing the situation first hand will determine how someone reacts.
Please, save it. You have NO idea how you would react. What bothers me the most is the thought that some people have, like "I'm far too strong to let something like that cause me to commit suicide". You can't say with any certainty how you would react.
BrandNew
New member
Yea i can i just did...
also i know for shur i wouldnt. i have been teased before its not like i havnt been
also the fear of committing suicide is to great so thats the other reason.
Dinah
New member
How do you know that? Have you ever been raped? Tortured? Abused? Harassed? Stalked? Honestly you cannot know how you would be in that sort of situation until it happens to you.
I was abused as a child and I can tell you just that is enough to make a person consider suicide. I myself probably would not be here today if it weren't for counselling and I "only" had to deal with some abuse, this girl was raped and stalked as well.
If you want to be all self righteous and blame the victim because the action she took when she was desperate isn't something you think you would ever do then go ahead and blame her. Rationalize the bullies behavior and sweep their actions under the rug, but that is just adding to the problem.
Besides her suicide while tragic is NOT the point or issue so whether you agree with her actions or not doesn't matter. Even if this girl were alive and well, what the bullies did was wrong and they should still be punished for it. Their behavior was not OK and to our society harassment, abuse, and rape are all considered unacceptable behaviors and that is why there are laws against them.
wade
Save The Humans
I think that is a great answer Brand New guy and I hope you can always say that. But I kind of feel like you are having a hard time grasping the idea of suicide. Just doesn't make any sense that someone would do that does it? That tells me you are probably mentally healthy with a good support system in place.
Unfortunately not everyone is as lucky as you. Some people don't feel very good about themselves to begin with and don't have anyone they can turn to for help. They are on their own and don't feel able to figure it out.
It is hard for people on the outside to understand that. Your post here make me believe that it is hard for you to understand. But you need to at least except the fact that some people feel this way. It's a pretty sad a lonely place to be. I hope if you ever encounter someone in that state of mind you will be able to share some compassion with them.
luckycharm318
New member
Okay, well let's try that experiment. I'll find six older kids to harass, rape, and stalk you when you get to high school, okay? Sound fun? I don't think so. Please don't minimalize the situations of others when you have never been in the same situation yourself.
Here is another question, what would you do if you were to get pregnant? You can answer the question, and say that you would make whatever decision hands down, no matter what, but until you are ACTUALLY put in that situation, you don't know what you would really do.
I'm good at blunt. Let me take a shot at this.
This is NOT about you. Not in any way shape or form.
Not only are you a boy, but you yourself have bullied.
This girl was raped. She was traumatized far more than your little brain can imagine. No matter how much you think you can imagine what it was like, you can't. You're too young and inexperienced and, to be blunt, the wrong sex.
Then she was tormented. Not teased, but tormented. Look up the definitions. She was preyed upon by others who took advantage of her being broken. They finished off the job of doing her in.
If you really want to bully someone, pick on the biggest guy in school. If he can't beat the snot out of you, you shouldn't be picking on him.
All of you who have posted your experiences have missed on key fact; it wasn't you. None of us know what she went through, who she trusted that let her down, what was done to her or how she dealt with it. I don't know about teachers being responsible for the way we raise our kids, in the classroom absolutely should they have total control, but once out of the class it's not their job to maintain the standards that it is their job to maintain IN the classroom.
Parents are at fault here. Parents who in all likelihood had poor parenting as an example when growing up and so are now being poor parents themselves. Several here have stated what they would do were the bullies their children, and that is good. Unless your child us stubborn and resourceful in which case you will have no clue what happens outside your view.
IF this girl went to authorities, be they school administrators or law enforcement, and nothing was done, there is blame there and consequences of a serious nature should follow. If she didn't, how can you blame those who didn't know. We don't have enough facts to make that call. Yet.
I will say this though, those who can, those who care about those who can't or have a difficult time defending themselves, should help them out. Were this girl your friend, would you now be saying, "if I had known I would have done something, even if I got my ass kicked for it."
We need to look out for those who have a tough time, not pile it on or look the other way because WE might get hurt or look bad or have mean things said about us. How often does anyone defend the one being picked on? How many times have you seen a crowd just looking on, watching as someone is purposely hurt? If you didn't do anything to stop it, aren't you just as bad as the people doing it?
It's one thing to take on someone you know can defend their self, can give as well as receive, but to hammer the wounded or broken shows a lack of a very serious nature; backbone, honor, respect, character and a slew of other words that most have no clue as to the meaning of.
If she was bullied into this, there should be consequences.
BrandNew
New member
Im a guy so if i was pregnant that be hilarious/creepy.
2ndly i have compasion for people.
you guys are taking this way to personally i understand its WRONGE OK.
idk what its like cause it hasnt happened to me.
ok ok i get it i get it im sorry for having a opinion i guess from now on ill just make shur what ever i hear that happens thats bad i'll experience it first. ok? that make you guys happy?
BrandNew
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ok well 1stly i was asked what i would do i gave my answer...
Also the biggest guy in school is no bigger then me so theres no problem in that (im not trying to brag) im just saying im not small i havnt been seriously bullied (my lifes not perfect) i guesse i cant fit in her shoes.
BrandNew
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thats better