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"Original" Granites

I understand, Tom. :)
MohrSnakes said:
Yeah...but if you followed the Buccaneer colors of present day you would be fine. BUT...back when I used to go to the games their colors were different.....

:sidestep:


But....Bucs corn may work....it did come from Ultimate Cornsnakes who were in FL......Maybe you ought to call it something to pay tribute to them? :grin01:

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6323
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Wow, what an entertaining thread that was! I've had dealings with Ultimatecorns. I'll leave it at that...
 
tom e said:
I don't know how you could not have hard feelings on that one, and it was clear on this guys ad that he does. He had said something to the extent of "If you have something to say about the name, just keep it on the boards where I will never see it."
Can you imagine how he feels at every show when a noob like me can walk up to him and say, "Sorry dude, but those aren't granite corns.."
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Very well said!

Roy Munson said:
I dunno. I have mixed-feelings about it. Fortunately, my opinions on the subject don't matter much.
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I completely agree! My comments weren't for a position of taking a side on this specific issue. It's just my viewpoint on how it should eventually get settled. More specifically, either he needs to accept that more people use Granite for Anery Bloods OR the community needs to respect that he prefers Granite for his Key's type morph. I don't presently own an Anery Blood so don't have a dog in this fight . . . (maybe that's not a great expression to use with Raiders and Buccaneers being thrown about . . . Falcons . . . ).

I'll see your :shrugs: , and raise you a :shrugs:
D80

PS. Thanks Jeff for bringing back that horrendously colored reminder of the former doormat Buccaneers!
 
MohrSnakes said:
Yeah...but if you followed the Buccaneer colors of present day you would be fine. BUT...back when I used to go to the games their colors were different.....

:sidestep:


But....Bucs corn may work....it did come from Ultimate Cornsnakes who were in FL......Maybe you ought to call it something to pay tribute to them? :grin01:

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6323
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Ouch.. That thread is so embarrassing to read, it hurts.
 
Roy Munson said:
What if I could prove that I was the originator of hypo-snows, that I produced them before lav was even discovered, and that I had once publicly declared that they were to be called "opals"? Would everybody be expected to desist in using the term for amel-lavs?

:shrugs:
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Sorry Dean, I missed this part of your post! Obviously you were right on point with this one..

It seems the main thing about not wanting to change the name has been 'Well these look more like granite than those'.. and your example would likely have the same point brought up, 'well these look more like opal, so we're taking your name'..
But all the trade names take some imagination. In fact, granite comes in more colors and patterns than corn snakes do. And someone could say, 'that opal looks more like mother of pearl', should we call them mother of pearl corns if they are right that the appearence is closer to that? What a mouthful that would be.
I feel like if he named it first and 'the committee' renames it cause they don't like the name, so be it. That's most likely going to happen to anyone's names. But taking someone's name can only alienate somebody from these boards and cause hard feelings. Especially if no attempt is made to involve them in the process..
 
Drizzt80 said:
PS. Thanks Jeff for bringing back that horrendously colored reminder of the former doormat Buccaneers!
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Hey...if I had to suffer through their less than stellar seasons in those old colors you can suffer through the reminder! :grin01:

At least when the got pretty colors they played a bit better and went to that one Super Bowl and got a ring of some sort.
 
Every time I see the old Buc's logo, I'm reminded of their first coach, John McKay; the guy was a hoot, and he gave the world my favorite football-related quote, during a post-game interview:

"Coach, what do you think of their (the team's) execution today?"

"I'm all for it."

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regards,
jazz
 
Roy Munson said:
I just acquired a snake that may have a new mutant pattern-gene. If I prove that it is something new, and I decide that I want to call the homozygous hatchlings "Buccaneer" corns (Tampa Bay's colors are red, white, and black), should I expect everyone to fall in line?
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I think names like that and "raider" are too confusing, especially for people who live outside of the States and have no idea what you are talking about! lol

The "Buccaneers" (Orlando Pirates) here in South Africa are a soccer team and their colours are black and white. :grin01:
 
How about food names?

I want to create the Cupcake morph! :D Then we can have Chocolate Cupcakes, Vanilla Cupcakes, Red Velvet Cupcakes, Angel Cupcakes, Devils Cupcakes... :grin01:
 
Roy Munson said:
Yep. And the "Matrix" corn does not look anything like these striped-Keys corns to me...
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Both have "busy" patterns. But the striped keys are, well...striped while Nova has definate saddle-action going on.
Plus Nova is gorgeous IMO and I still haven't made up my mind about these others!
 
Matrix picture again please

Hi Dean - could we see an updated picture of the matrix corn. It has been some time since I saw the neonate for sale.
 
I can understand the originator's feelings about seeing "his" trade name now being used for something else.

I'll try say what I'm thinking next in the best possible light. I'm not being b*tchy, just curious and confused.

It does seem a little odd to me that he's seen the term Granite come up for the diffused anery and hasn't spoken up on the boards, since he doesn't appear to use them. I haven't seen or heard much of an argument from his side about people not using it for anery bloods until now. It seems a bit like he has his head in the sand over this by not wanting to read the boards. Maybe he has argued his point before now. I've been seeing Granite (diffused anery) for a while, but this is the first I've heard of the other Granite. It seems to me if you want your trade name to be the dominant one for a particular morph that you would get it out there quickly or at least try to shoot it down when you see it being used for something else. Perhaps I've missed all that happening. This just seems a strangely timed argument.

And I agree that it all comes down to the popular vote (= $$) on accepted trade names.
 
Here's the description of an adult "Original Granite" I was provided by Jeff:

Granite corns pattern continues to shatter and break up as they age once they are over a year old they don't even look like a stripe. The belly of a granite is almost pure white except for a little bit of bright orange flecking.
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Funny how still no one can provide a photo of an adult yet they want to still lay claim to the name. :shrugs:
 
blckkat said:
Here's the description of an adult "Original Granite" I was provided by Jeff:



Funny how still no one can provide a photo of an adult yet they want to still lay claim to the name. :shrugs:
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Kathy's book has sold over 5,000 copies. That's over 5,000 pictures of an adult out there.
 
Yes, a single picture. In a book. :rolleyes:
Why won't anyone provide a CURRENT photo?
I understand that their are few of those out there who breed them, but I've asked for photos from people I know that have them, and none are provided. :shrugs:
 
blckkat said:
Funny how still no one can provide a photo of an adult yet they want to still lay claim to the name.
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The guy running the ad had adult pics on his website, had you followed the link given:
 

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