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Picking up a pair of rescues, advice?

Nooooo a body will use up all of the fat stores it has, and only once the animal is completely out of it will it start to use up muscle. If the body is using muscle as fuel, the animal is completely emaciated and close to death.
 
in the meantime, losing all of that fat and having hunger pains, that animal/person would in excrutiating (sp?) pain while all of that fat is being lost. I second that cutting down to smaller meals and NOT starving the creature are the way to go.
 
VickyChaiTea said:
Nooooo a body will use up all of the fat stores it has, and only once the animal is completely out of it will it start to use up muscle.
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No. The body is never "out" of fat cells, or even low. In humans or reptiles. Adipose tissue under a slide will show very large, light in color fat cells in a reptile like this. Starving the animal isn't going to be the quickest (or most humane) route to trimming them up. Very small meals at longer than usual intervals will; part of the idea is that the hungry snake will be roaming the cage also. Although, I'd wager some permanent damage has been done and they will never quite be what they should. I'm stunned that a snake has double clutched and can still be this obese. Honestly, I'm surprised that she could produce viable eggs at all. Those photos made me sad.
 
I talked to Chip on the phone, and after getting off the phone with him a good friend of mine who works for my regular vet came by unexpectedly. She said a phone call would not do. She had gotten my email with the pics of these two had shocked her. She begged me to say I had altered the photos to be funny. Then she explained how explained how expensive it would be to care for them and to only get them if they were free. I wrote to the owner and told her I could only take them if they were free on the advice of my vet. I hate backing out when I say I will do something. Until I started asking about their sizes I honestly thought the female was gravid and that I'd get eggs with my new snakes. Then it slowly became painfully obvious she is not pregnant. Until I spoke with my friend and Chip I had high hopes I could help them. I showed my husband the up to date pics (the first are actually kind of old and no way a female is gravid that long without being eggbound) and he put his foot down. We have to think of the snakes in our care when considering new ones and if I had sudden high vet bills I could not afford to buy feeders if I was in a pinch. So very saddly, unless the lady changes her mind and offers them free, I am passing on this pair. It hurts me to walk away. I love corn snakes and this is just awful but I can not develope tunnel vission just because they need me. My other pets and my kids need me too. Man, where is the winning lottery ticket when you need it?:cry::cry::cry:
 
I don't think anyone here could not respect your decision. I wish the best for the snakes, but even for free, you were doing that woman a favor.
 
I can't believe people can treat animals like this. Unfortunately it seems that this kind of abuse is only frowned upon when it happens to mammals. I don't think that groups like the ASPCA even blink when it's reptiles. I hope someone can help these poor snakes.
 
Personally I have done rescues but I will no longer keep peoples mistakes.

Best thing to do, if you get these animals, Dont feed them for a month. i would go ahead and put them in brumation if they are other wise healthy.
 
The idea would be to kick start their metabolism after they warm up. Per our conversation, they had been fed 2-4 times a week as long as this lady has had them. It's pretty much all a moot point now, as they current owner is demanding money for them.
 
Good News! Maybe. She could be blowing smoke to make me go away :shrugs:

The owner says she looked up fat corn snakes and was shocked that hers were worse than any she found photos of online. She swears she will start feeding every 2 weeks giving small adult mice one each. She says she will also try to handle them more. Saddly when I tried to convince her to seperate them she stopped talking to me. Seems she is set on co-habbing. But I got her to take a couple of fair to good vet's info. I hope she takes this all to heart and does better for these snakes.

Thank you all for the support.
If anyone happens to live near St Louis planning to be in KC for Christmas let me know if you can do a transport for me lol. I know someone with two snakes that are healthy that I want but can not drive across state lol!
 
Maybe the owner will learn her lesson the hard way when that female dies obese and eggbound.
 
Vicky: I'm afraid she flat out said she won't sell them to me because I don't like co-habbing snakes. I plead with her to buy Kathy Love's book and gave her two links for places she could get it. I hope she does.

Susan: I dearly hope the female is not eggbound. But I am realistic and am waiting for an email from her pleading for me to just take the male because the female died.
 
Okay, so how bad is a little white lie? Can't someone buy them and say to the current owner, "Oh of course I'll house them together"! and then do what needs to be done? :D
 
I was going to do that until I realized how much would need to be done and I am not in a possition to do what may end up being needed. She never advertised online so anyone contacting her about them would have to explain how they found out about them and that would cause her to turn them away. Because the source of info would have to be me or the mutual friend that had contacted me. I think she may have realized that the majority of snake owners will seperate them and she really feels they are like two lovers who will mourn to death if seperated. She kept saying they had to stay together because when it came down to it they only have each other. If she ever advertises them I hope someone can get them with saying they will keep them together then do what is right, but I think they are most likely going to die from lack of propper care. I feel really bad that I can not afford at this time to take it on and could not get them from her, but she refused to give them to me without asking money that could have gone to their care.
 
I am so shocked I actually fell out of my chair. I got an email from her just a few moments ago asking me to just take them because her job wants her to work more! I'm working out the details to pick them up!
 
I'll let you guys know if I feel egs in the female once I get her. I figure I'll give her a laybox just in case and make sure she doesn't spend too much time in it.
 
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