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pre-dinner Suriname pic

cka

cka

memba
Thawed medium rat tartare is on the menu for tonight :*)

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He's gorgeous! Wouldn't that be cool if the whole snake was the color of his tail? What is the difference between the Suri and a RTB?

Nanci
 
Nanci said:
He's gorgeous! Wouldn't that be cool if the whole snake was the color of his tail? What is the difference between the Suri and a RTB?

Nanci
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Regional difference is all, iirc. Suriname's ARE Red-Tail Boa's...

Typically the ones you see most often in the pet trade are Colombian, Honduran, and Suriname. Then there's the dwarf ones that I 'think' are in the same family as RTB's, they just sometimes lack the distinctive Red Tails, and those are the Hogg Island Boa's.

Sorta similar to Okeetee and Upper Keys Corn Snakes. They've got slightly different pattern variations and such, but tend to look pretty similar. And unless you're a BCC expert (I'm not), it's hard to tell the difference.

Now, I'm not 100% sure on those facts, but I'm pretty sure I'm correct.



:sidestep:

Edit: And it's a beautiful Suriname, cka. I've been wanting one so badly lately!
 
Nanci, Suris are true red tails and in the BCC family. Common boas (where all the moprhs belong) are BCI's and often refered to as red tail boas by pet shop trade names. Like Mathew said, it's a regional thing. BCC's are typically central American. It is not in the least bit difficult to tell the difference between a BCC and a BCI. A common boa is a common boa... thats all their is to it. A true red tail can have many different looks ie peruvian, bolivian, suinam, guyana, peruvian long tails... ok I could actually list another 30 at least. So instead heres a great page on localitys Nanci!

http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/localityboas/

Beautiful suri btw cka...
 
Ah, I'm sorry, Elle. I'm not much of a constrictor guy.

One can definitely tell the difference, especially when referring to a BCC and a BCI...but...when referring to a Guyana, Peruvian, and Suriname (All true BCC's, no?) I have issues telling them apart. And I can barely tell when it's the BCC look-alike, the BCI 'Colombian' Red-Tail.

I guess someone truly versed in Red-Tails would mock me for my problems, but...I seem to have them nonetheless, haha.
 
Dang, I thought that Colombian WAS a morph, which made it a BCI. Grrr...I guess I'll have to go back to reading on them, to clarify it for myself a bit more.

Not like I had anything else to do today... :grin01:
 
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Hi Nanci,
BCC's (Boa constictor constrictor) are considered your "true" red-tails. They are almost always referred to by locality i.e. Suriname, Guyana, Brazilian, Venezuelan etc. The different morphs, Albino, Anery, Hypo etc. are based on BCI (Boa constrictor imperator) or common Boa that range from Mexico into Columbia and Brazil. There are Island Boas that are identified as BCI as well. There are however other Boa genus as well. There is the BCO (Boa constrictor occidentalis) Argentine Boa (we have one) and the short tail Boas (Boa constrictor amarali) and long tail Boas (Boa constrictor longicauda) named as a sub-species of Bci's (i think). There are a lot of variations between the Boas of South America. I was going to suggest the link that Elle has posted for some information but she beat me to it. Here is another great site for you to get a ton of information as well.

Rio Bravo Reptiles

Boas are our second love next to our Cornsnakes, maybe PJ"s first love, and they are awesome animals. If you didn't mind a bigger bodied snake I would say to definitely add one to your collection. Hell, we have 7 in our collection and want more. Hope this helps Nanci, now go get yourself edumicated. :crazy02: JK

Now, back to cka's post. The tail on him is incredible. I love how distinct the tail markings are on Bcc's. Great specimen, if you ever decide to get rid of him....... :rolleyes:
Jay :cool:
 
No... all designer morphs belong in the BCI common boa family. IE sunglows, albinos, anerys, ghosts, moonglow, snow etc etc. They are all just differently pigmented common boas. Whereas there are no proven morphs in BCC boas.
 
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