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questions about morphs
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Chip
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒ&
I know many a gray-headed hunter of Okeetee. Two on these forums. Their wives usually drop them off and swing back by for them at a specified time! It's neither "Kool" nor something you "outgrow." It's a place of legend and folklore to hunters. And there are two state roads intersecting the club that are perfectly legal to drive on.
Vinman
Vinman
Hay Chip what about the privet homes and land that are surrounded by okeetee there are many of them and purryesburg rd on one side okeetee the other is privet homes, farms and the savana river that the boader line betweet SC and Ga. IT runs parallel to purrysberg rd ( 34 ) and the same snakes that are in the okeetee go across the street . I know I have seen them cross both ways. also 336 there are many roads and I still did not mention the other side of I 95 that is alot of places that you can hunt this is where duck pond is I know you cant hunt duck pond . carl also hunted pineland and tarbrough the okeetee is up there too . the pineland hunt club rents their land from okeetee when carl went there it was still posted okeetee. There are still many places that you can still hunt okeetee without tresspassing
Vinman
Vinman
Chip I bet you that If these people went to jasper co and caught a okeetee corn I bet you more that half of them their minds would change. The exp . is the best part of hunting, all the things that I seen down there all the american history that I exp while hunting snakes. How many signs do you have chip ??? 
E. g. guttata
Her name was Mary-9/17/05
I bet if I went to jasper county and caught a "ture locality" okeetee, that my opinion would still not change. Look is what dictates everything in this hobby.
Serpwidgets
New member
Uhuh, now if you don't breed "locality" animals, on top of being a liar and a fraud, you are a fake breeder selling fake snakes.Vinman said:
Now I remember why Chip is the ONLY locality nut that I have had even an ounce of respect for.
Agreed. Chip, rock on for going with what you like and stressing what is important to you AND respecting that others may have different views, beliefs, and opinions. That is professionalism, that is admirable. If I were to get into locality animals, your door is the only one I'd knock on.
E. g. guttata
Her name was Mary-9/17/05
Vinman said:
Where did I say that I didn't care if my corn is 1/4 king or gohper?? My stance on hybridizatoin has been and always will be that I could care less if you hybridize AS LONG AS IT IS LABLED. The difference between you and the rest of the locality buffs is that you are a "locality fundamentalist nazi". STOP TRYING TO PUSH YOUR LOCALITY BELIEFS ON OTHERS! The use of the word "okeetee" is becoming more and more to describe the look of the snake. Therefore, it is the look that dictates this hobby.
Vinman
Vinman
I ment comercial breeders sory about that . Most comercial breeders do just what EGG said go for look and not genitects. it isall for the money. Sory just as many people call it a locality too. like I said before this forum is not the standerd for the hobby this is a small pice of the pie Most of you have no contact with the sincetific communty. This forum is a good learning tool and it is free thanks to rich for starting it and all of you that mantine it. but it is not the end all or be all of snakes it is mostly, I'm sory, pet people. I sell fish that I raise since 1980 and been doing snakes 20 years and bearded dargons since the mid 90s I do the pet seen and conservation work and collect for the pet trade and a all a round love for fish and herps. I may not be a big player but a very well rounded herper. On top of everything I say it like it is no sugar coated BS I'm no phony. there are a lot of peoples oppoin goes back and forth with the statis quowe that is on this site
Drizzt80
Dakota Corns
I may consider myself a small fish in a big pond here, but I heard that somebody said this forum is just a small piece of the pie when it comes to cornsnakes.
I'm sorry, but I have to believe that considering it is run by one of the top three cornsnake breeders in the country, and the other two visit and contribute here very often . . . well that leads me to believe this place is a fairly sizeable piece of the pie.
Where is there a collection of more dedicated cornsnake hobbyists concentrated on the net? I haven't found anywhere else to hang out and discuss corns that has any kind of intelligent discussion about all facets of the hobby . . .
D80
I'm sorry, but I have to believe that considering it is run by one of the top three cornsnake breeders in the country, and the other two visit and contribute here very often . . . well that leads me to believe this place is a fairly sizeable piece of the pie.
Where is there a collection of more dedicated cornsnake hobbyists concentrated on the net? I haven't found anywhere else to hang out and discuss corns that has any kind of intelligent discussion about all facets of the hobby . . .
D80
E. g. guttata
Her name was Mary-9/17/05
Vinman said:
So in other words, Rich, Kathy, nor Don are professionals because they don't strictly breed okeetees as a locality. They are only in this because they want to make some money, not because they love snakes. They don't do anything just for the sake of doing it and for the love of the hobby. This forum is not the whole hobby, that is understood by everyone here, but you have yet to release any names of your so-called "scientific community", or share any info they may have taught you or that they may know. You refuse to debate logicly, without letting your emotions get in the way. You have yet to support your claims validly (including the claim that it's all for the money), or to actually add anything constructive here. All you have done is call us ignorant and then tell me to call you so you don't have to share info with this part of the community. I can garuntee that the majority of people that buy corns, buy them for pets and don't care about locality. The locality thing is for a SELECT FEW, not for everyone, and if someone is not into the locality thing (which will be well over 50%, seeing as how more than 50% of people buy corns as pets), you belittle them and try to degrade the quality of their snakes. You deserve the title I have now twice geven you. You are right, you are no phony, you show your title well and proud for everyone to see. I think that you really need to reconsider coming back here, as I am sure I'm not the only one tiring of your childish antics.
Vinman
Vinman
I have mention many names of people that I talk about. the fact that most wont waste there time on people like you . How many times doI haveto post that I volenterred at the reptile house many convo with John bahler. william Holmstrom. Jerry samon the is doing work with the collage of Nuevo Leon in mexico on the Mexicna complex their rainges have been exstended they might have a new mexicana . thery are working on the taxonomy and ranges of the mexicana.so dont tell me that I'm not in touch with the scientific community.
Bob fengya also taught me alot a bout hoe the diffrent species N.american species are related it isyou who has not had the privlige. there is more buy I alredy said enuff to prove my point.
Bob fengya also taught me alot a bout hoe the diffrent species N.american species are related it isyou who has not had the privlige. there is more buy I alredy said enuff to prove my point.
Menhir
Charmelippe
Please...
...write me an E-Mail if the guys will ever stop comparing their dicks and get back to a discussion about Okeetee, locality or whatever.
So long, I will quit reading this thread - the "fun" while reading is very equal to watching children play and have their little wars - but I'm quite shure that many of the kids can write more understandable postings than some members do :sidestep:
...write me an E-Mail if the guys will ever stop comparing their dicks and get back to a discussion about Okeetee, locality or whatever.
So long, I will quit reading this thread - the "fun" while reading is very equal to watching children play and have their little wars - but I'm quite shure that many of the kids can write more understandable postings than some members do :sidestep:
E. g. guttata
Her name was Mary-9/17/05
Vinman said:
Are you sure they aren't coming to this forum because they don't want to deal with people like me? Maybe they don't want to deal with people like you, people who are convinced that their way is right and that nothing else can be so, people that will not set theri emotions asside for a minute and think logicly, people who make all sorts of claims but don't back them up. Hmmm. Now that I think about it, I don't want to deal with people like you. The agonizing truth is that I do. Why? Because that's life. Being an arrogan prick and avoiding people so as not to share knowledge is BS, so these people in the scientific community are not really there. Sharing knowledge, no mater if it's with a 40 year old man who can barely spell to save his life, or an 18 year old kid who is VERY interested in this hobby and has some ideas and knowledge on how to take care of his snakes, is always something that SHOULD be done. Unfortunately, your frieking experts don't have the sac to show up here and help out. I'm not sure they are even experts, just guys who read a lot of books and have huge egos.