I'd never seen an adult till this spring. I saw Lee Abbott's male at a show- and it was one of the most amazing snakes I have ever seen. If my shower hadn't broken two days later, costing $800 after _everything_ got fixed, that snake would have been mine, redundant or not!! And now Razzle is growing up to look just like him! I can't wait!! They are _so_ beautiful in person. I have a female, too, Orchidee, who is very similar. They both went through a kind of ugly baby phase, but both are gorgeous now, and only going to get better!