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religion and hybrids

Nanci said:
I wonder if mammoths have a component in their blood to prevent freezing, similar to frogs.
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Hehe!! your a smart cookie aren't you!!!

Actually, that was suggested. Didn't mention frogs....but said the mammoths must have had a cryrogenic element to their blood.
 
rich333 said:
I wonder if the Mammoths were also "Genetically" altered by the aliens as well?
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anal-probe.jpg
 
When you asked that all that kept coming to mind was the South Park episode where cartman gets anal probed
 
Imagine the Implications if the Mammoth Blood is Cryrogenic?

being mammal one would presume it would be easier to figure out how it works.

Inject this into astronauts....

Off to deep space....


Viola.
 
HerpsOfNM said:
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I don't understand why people are so quick to dismiss random mutations as simply deleterious or judging recessive mutations as bad. In humans, achondroplasia is an inheritable autosomal dominant mutation of dwarfism. Albinism is another quick one to dismiss, yet many albino herps in the trade have been found as sub-adults to adults; Burmese pythons (iirc), Mohave rattlesnake, cal king, trans pecos rat snakes, etc. Some of these mutations can even be environmentally triggered: incubation temp fluxuations, humidity swings, in vitro injuries. There are a number of ways mutations, good or bad, that can arise and even be potentially inheritable.
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Peppered moths. Melanism was harmful as it meant their usual camoflague against lichen-covered bark didn't work. Then along came the industrial revolution and pollution covering the tree trunks in soot. The melanism suddenly became beneficial whilst the pale versions stood out like sore thumbs. With the cleaner air act and lessening of pollution the population shifted again as the melanistic moths got eaten. Having variations in the species meant changing conditions didn't wipe out the peppered moths, just changed which versions were most likely to survive and breed.
 
susang said:
Lengthy replies are accepted and appreciated if they go somewhere, if the reader is given substantial evidence or reference to the same. When the discussion becomes circuitous and only one person is feeding the discussion it becomes boring. When something new is added the thread can again become fun and educational. Of course there are the times in a thread when one is being poked and as you say denigrated that can also be fun, as in what kind of poo will come out next. This being the only reason I find it hard to ignore you, not only are your discussions circuitous, you argue both sides as if you believe in both sides.
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You are quite right. I do tend to argue both sides. I do so to show that something is missing... i.e. any objective truth to what some would claim as fact... hybrids are bad... hybrids are hurting the hobby... hybrids are taking away from the pool of genes. The truth is that hybrids add to the gene pool and create new possibilities. The truth is that you can use a corn snake to create more corn snakes and hybrids both simply by giving that corn snake another partner. Such as when one partners a male corn snake with a cornduran and then later breed that same male corn snake to another corn snake. If I use circular logic, examine that and rip it apart for what it is or don't.
 
airenlow said:
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I love your post airenlow. Sadly, evolution has been proven and some creationists have adopted creation science aka baraminology to prove out their mythological story, but you already knew that. Personally, I like the Lakota stone boy creation myth. A boy that was formed from the simple act of his mother swallowing a stone. He was thus a hybrid of stone and man having a father of stone and an earthly mother. You simply can't take any cultural/religious mythology and tie it into science and suddenly give validity to ones religious/mythological creation story.
 
"All types of the hybrids produced were viable and fertile. As such, they are most
likely examples of intrabaraminic diversity of created “kinds” rather than evolutionary speciation."
"Wise, Sanders, & Doran, 2003) has been proposed as
a method to examine the relationships between and
among the original created biblical “kinds” and their
descendents or baramins.kind. Baraminology as a concept, as well as snake
hybridization, have rarely been examined in detail for
snakes and should increase the amount of available"

http://www.icr.org/i/pdf/technical/Snake-Hybridization-A-Case-for-Intrabaraminic-Diversity.pdf

Much more information in this creationist argument pseudoscience, but if your interested...
 
dave partington said:
Such presumption.
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Homo neanderthalensis, Homo florensis, Homo erectus, Homo habilis, Homo Heilderbergensis, Homo rudolfensis...... Simply put there were other Homo's before sapiens and thus... unless you were poofed into existence.... insert cultural mythology/religion here....
 
Carpe Serpentis said:
Homo neanderthalensis, Homo florensis, Homo erectus, Homo habilis, Homo Heilderbergensis, Homo rudolfensis...... Simply put there were other Homo's before sapiens and thus... unless you were poofed into existence.... insert cultural mythology/religion here....
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Alien Intervention....

How many times do I gotta say it? Jeeesh!! :)
 
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