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So we got a suprise...

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Khaw

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I'm new to the forum and breeding in general. I actually never planned to breed...

Well see, we had 2 males. A friends girlfriend acquired a corn and decided it was to fast and darty for her compared to her Ball Pythons. She told us it was a male, so we bought it from her and put "him" in with our 2 males. Earlier this year "he" started to look a bit more plump than "he" had ever looked before. Low and behold, I opened the tank one day to get Draco out and I found eggs... 15 of them. We candled them and 14 had veins in them. I really had no idea what to do so I searched and read how to set up a incubator with vermiculite. I set one up but I guess the temp got to high because mold started growing on all the eggs a few weeks later.

Well, This last weekend I went to feed our 3, and I found 8 more eggs and a very skinny girl who got a couple of hopper rats to eat. We candled them and all have veins. I did some more reading and went to the store and picked up some perlite. I did the weighing thing to add water to it. I set it on the closet shelf in our computer room because it's the most constant temperature room in the house. I set a humidity and temp gauge in it and it was staying right at 80 degrees with just over 60% humidity. I moved the eggs to it and it's been sitting right at the same temp and humidity for the last 5 days.

Problem is, I read that 90-95% humidity is best for them and I am just not sure what to do to raise the humidity. If I heat it, the temperature already being at 80 degrees will get to hot wouldn't it? Should I add more water, or just mist the eggs every couple of days?

The eggs had a couple of dents in them when we first found them, since I was not expecting more of them. Since being put in the incubator 4 of them have "plumped" up and become firm. The other 4 are starting to "plump" up. Is that a good sign?

I'm really kind of lost here and just trying to do what I can. I tried searching and so many threads say so many different things.

Anyways, thanks you to anyone who can help me learn what I need to do. I'm going to keep searching and reading. I'll try to post up some pictures of our 3. Maybe you all could enlighten me on the kinds they are. I think one it just the ordinary orange and red corn snake one a Miami and the other I'm not sure.
 
First off, you'll want to separate them into their own enclosures so this doesn't happen again. Plus they tend to do better by themselves. :)

If they are plumping up I wouldn't mess with them. Check them every week or so, if the humidity starts to drop add a little water to the edges of the perlite.
 
I have separated the female from the 2 males. Should I separate the 2 males also? They've been tank mates for a year and a half or so now.

These are our Corns.

Draco, is our first ever snake. He's my favorite.
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Lucious was our second corn. We were at the reptile store and saw him. We had them get him out and he was so pretty we decided to get him. When he sheds his lighter colored scales get this iridescent blue/purple sheen to them.
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And Bellatrix. This was our third that we acquired about 8 months ago. She was supposed to be a he.
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We started with Corn snakes because that's what I wanted. My wife always wanted a Ball Python, so about a year ago we got her Severus.
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This is what I have the eggs in. I keep it up in the closet, because that's out of the reach of our kids and like I said, the computer room remains pretty constant as far as temperature goes. With the 3 computers in this room, even with the AC on it stays right at 80 in here.
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Should I get a better temp and humidity gauge or will that one be okay?

Thanks again :).
 
Oh and any idea what kind of corns they are? Like I said, I'm pretty sure Draco is a regular corn but I'm not sure what kind the other 2 are.
 
Yup, they'll definitely be better off separated. Draco is huge lol and looks to be either a normal or even a hypomelanistic corn. Lucien does look like a Miami, and Bellatrix looks to be an anery, possibly a charcoal, more likely an anery...
 
Normal, normal, anery. And YES, by all means, split those males up!

Also, I'd stretch the feedings out a little with Draco, he's getting "love handles." Thanks for posting here and asking questions.
 
Go to a regular sized mouse (If your not already) every 14, separate him and give him lot's of "out" time, which you look like you have covered. Pretty snakes, all three. :)
 
I haven't had much luck with second clutches, but yours may be better since she likely bred to one of the males again after laying the first eggs. Temps in 80's is good. I can't really tell from the pic but some of those eggs look dented as if a bit too dry. I don't use perlite, I like moss better you might want to make a pad of damp moss to put on top of the clutch. I'm pretty sure most of the clutches I see photos of being incubated in perlite or vermiculite are seperated from the clump and the breeder buries them a little more- but I'm a moss fan like I said so hopefully others can chime in.
And yea your snakes will be happier in individual vivariums.
 
Yea just make a damp pad (squeeze every drop of water out you can) and place loosely on top of eggs. No need to move them out of the perlite.
 
Okay, I've got a pad of damp, not dripping, moss on top of the eggs. I went to the pet store and picked up the stuff I needed for a third viv and have the 3 separated now.
 
Awesome! Your snakes are going to be much happier!
 
Thank you all for the help. With the moist moss on top of the eggs, 2 of the dented eggs have plumped back up and the other 2 are almost plumped completely back up. If we can get these eggs to hatch and any of the hatchlings to survive one will be going to our girls charter school. My daughters science teacher had a Corn Snake for her classroom that was stolen this last year. We have been in contact with her and if we can get these eggs to be viable we have agreed to donate one to her for her classroom.
 
I love seeing people like you here. So many people will argue and fuss anytime someone here tries to help them. It's not the answer they want, so they refuse to listen. Thank you for not being like that. Your snakes are lucky to have an owner like you.
 
Thank you VampMN.

We wouldn't claim to know everything about our snakes. We do however want to make them as happy as we can. I love my snakes. A lot of people don't understand how you can become attached to a snake. They think it's just something you have in a "cage" that you never take out. We take mine ours often. None of our snakes have ever even musked nor have they done the tail rattling thing with the exception of when we dangle their food in front of them in the feeding box. We knew when we got them that it was a long term commitment and several years down the road I'm happy they will be around many more. I'm really glad I joined and asked questions and was given advice even on things I hadn't thought of.

Thank you all :).
 
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