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Steve Irwin Dies at age 44, A sad day in the herping world..

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starsevol said:
Yup youre way above my league.
I bet everyone who reads this will agree.

Snakes need whole food items, including fur, feathers, bones and stomach contents. Your diet provided none of that. You put money above the welfare of your animals. They are only money making tools for you.

I'm thinking you need to hire a new pr director for your "business". I sure would fire the idiot who went off on Irwin. There is no positive way you can spin it. It just might be too late for damage control now, your "company's" reputation sinks lower at every post. I'm fairly certain that whatever product your firm produces in the future, a huge percentage of your potential customer base would now rather jam a pencil into their right eye than buy anything from you.
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they did get bone in their diet the only thing they didn't is fur and stomach contents this might have been the missing ingreadent or may be not. The fact is I use both diets insted of just using mice and rats.So my snakes get a viared diet.
 
starsevol said:
Moi? :D

Rude I may be, but I speaketh truth. :grin01:
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sorry only when you know what you are talking about which is less than 1/2 the time you say something. Your facts are all screwed up, you cant compoes a simple analogy that makes sense. I allways speak the truth I dont lie. Sure I'm rude sometimes but I tell it like it is no sugar coating it at all

by the way there many people that feed their snakes nude mice only and have no problems so the only thing lacking is stomach contents. corns snakes dont digest the fur of their pray.
 
Vinman said:
they did get bone in their diet the only thing they didn't is fur and stomach contents this might have been the missing ingreadent or may be not. The fact is I use both diets insted of just using mice and rats.So my snakes get a viared diet.
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For variety; give WHOLE baby chicks, WHOLE other baby birds and WHOLE different types of rodents... that might be a non or hardly risky experiment to execute... I guess they might even be able to miss the pork and turkey meat then without health risks :rolleyes:
 
Vinman said:
sorry only when you know what you are talking about which is less than 1/2 the time you say something. Your facts are all screwed up, you cant compoes a simple analogy that makes sense. I allways speak the truth I dont lie. Sure I'm rude sometimes but I tell it like it is no sugar coating it at all
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That is exactly your problem; you think your opinion is the one and only truth! You have not been accused of being a liar, have you?
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I'm fairly certain, you, Vinman, have turned off so many people in this forum, that MANY would avoid buying anything from you. THAT is the TRUTH.

Now, where is that pencil?
 
befor I started tring the new diet I calld the reptile house at the Bx Zoo and talked to the Bill Hollstrom. He told me it might work and to try it, that there bigest burm on display was feed supermarket chicken . and I should cook the chicken before I feed it to my snakes. so I did . The chicken sold here in the states is allready cleaned no guts in side besides the gilbets which feed to my animals too
 
starsevol said:
I'm fairly certain, you, Vinman, have turned off so many people in this forum, that MANY would avoid buying anything from you. THAT is the TRUTH.

Now, where is that pencil?
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yes you are right but there is a whole world out there. If I turnd off some people so what .At least I sell a good product and stand behind it. That is most important thing to me
 
I'm glad you at least did that.
Dean says you are not a monster.
I respect the man and his opinion alot.
The way you behave leaves alot to be desired.
To break into a man's memorial thread and say the things you did is unforgivable. The attitude you show people is not very nice. You are rude and disrespectful. No matter what you produce, with all the caring and absolutely wonderful people in here (Dean included) why would anyone choose to deal with you? I can't think of a single reason....
 
There are at least 50 people in here who breed beautiful snakes and stand behind them.
NICE people.
You are NOT nice.
So why buy from you?
Oops!
 
I'm a very nice person ask anybody that knowes me personaly , Some times rude and disrespectful yes, just like you and a whole lot of others on this board . The only thing that differs between me and most people what I say on this fourm I will say it to your face. What I say behind your back I will say to your face. Nomater what the outcome will be.
Now the fact that I can be tastless, well gulty as charged. That is a whole nother issue that I have to deal with.
 
That HAS to be why few on here like you.
I see no one comes to your defense.
Dean says youre not a monster and pretty much told you that badmouthing a dead man in his memorial thread was not a wise move.
But do you learn by it??
Hell no!!
You insist that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
You insult and talk down to ANYONE who differs with you on ANYTHING.
You're PATHETIC.
 
You are the ONLY one on here I have a problem with DUDE
can you say the same??
No??
Wonder why?

SCROLL UP!!!!!!!!
 
Vinman said:
I'm a very nice person ask anybody that knowes me personaly , Some times rude and disrespectful yes, just like you and a whole lot of others on this board . The only thing that differs between me and most people what I say on this fourm I will say it to your face. What I say behind your back I will say to your face. Nomater what the outcome will be.
Now the fact that I can be tastless, well gulty as charged. That is a whole nother issue that I have to deal with.
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I admit that I'd just walk away in real life instead of continuing a discussion with you if it gets to the point where I feel like being rude cause I hate getting into arguementst irl (words hur more then), but posting on this forum is not behind your back, cause you can reply as 'safely' as I do and be rude at me if you feel like that.

Maybe you are a nice person, i never said you are not friendly but that does not prevent you from being stubborn and stating your opinion as facts, hence denying anyone elses theories or opinions. You even ignore facts that oppose to your opinions... Very friendly people can be more stubborn and frustrating then rude ones sometimes.... Very friendly people are not necessarily able to take part in discussions while respecting anyones opinion. I'd love to see soem change in your behavior on this forum showing that you are in fact a socially well developed and intelligent person. We have so far not seen that over here, that is what we try to tell you.
 
Hey Blu, you should have seen what his "go to hell" post directed at me originally said!!
He "outruded" me there.
 
Someone edited it.
Not sure who.
Had to do with a certain act, you know, a former prez had a scandal over....
 
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