Striped- Born Today.

[CobraPt]

I present the new corn snake. I am sure that is a striped, but totally different from what I have been born.

When I looked the first time even thought it had some tessera born by "God's grace"...

I hope you enjoy.

Born today 5/Sep/2011.

Regards.

 

[Jdog3131]

That is awesome!!!

 

[Lyion]

:O he's a beauty....

 

[Nanci]

I believe that is a pinstripe motley. What are the parents?

 

[MotleyMedusa7]

pretty baby

 

[Shiari]

Very nice pin-striped motley!

 

[CobraPt]

Thank you all for the comments.

I believe that is a pinstripe motley. What are the parents?

I Nanci,

The parents are Ghost Motley-Striped (Male) x Striped (Female).

the male is the father of the crimson zig-zag, which is the photo in another post. (http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114641)

 

[admitchell08]

Good looking snake!

 

[Mitchell Mulks]

Awesome snake! However, that is a pinstripe motley and not a stripe. It's cool how the motley gene can make it appear as though the stripe gene is being expressed, but that's a motley all the way! Very cool.

Mitch

 

[Nanci]

Okay, the "cool" clutch!

 

[CobraPt]

Awesome snake! However, that is a pinstripe motley and not a stripe. It's cool how the motley gene can make it appear as though the stripe gene is being expressed, but that's a motley all the way! Very cool.

Mitch

Thanks but honestly it seemed to me a striped,

Thanks also to those who already had informed me of the morph

Okay, the "cool" clutch!

Yes Nanci, the "cool" clucth

 

[Nanci]

These snakes, Loco and Zora, are pinstripe motleys. They do not have a stripe gene. With the baby, it's easy to see he's not a stripe because of the break in the stripe at the neck- genetic stripes just don't have that characteristic. You can also see defects in the stripe where single scales of the stripe jut out into the border. Genetic stripes also do not do that, but a vanishing pattern genetic stripe can mimic that look to some extent.

The female, Zora, is also motley:motley. She has a continuous stripe head to tail. She also has the stripe defects, but to a lesser extent. The central stripe in a pinstripe motley is generally narrower than in a genetic stripe, but to a person who did not know Zora's genetic makeup it would be quite easy to mistake her for a genetic stripe.

 

[CobraPt]

These snakes, Loco and Zora, are pinstripe motleys. They do not have a stripe gene. With the baby, it's easy to see he's not a stripe because of the break in the stripe at the neck- genetic stripes just don't have that characteristic. You can also see defects in the stripe where single scales of the stripe jut out into the border. Genetic stripes also do not do that, but a vanishing pattern genetic stripe can mimic that look to some extent.

The female, Zora, is also motley:motley. She has a continuous stripe head to tail. She also has the stripe defects, but to a lesser extent. The central stripe in a pinstripe motley is generally narrower than in a genetic stripe, but to a person who did not know Zora's genetic makeup it would be quite easy to mistake her for a genetic stripe.

Thanks for the explanation Nanci.

I thought that the pinstriped was the same as motley-striped, but I realized it's not the same thing. This is certainly the incorrect information that I obtained in studies that did or may not I have understood.

 

[Billis]

That snake is just beautiful to look at.

 

[Jessicat]

Thanks but honestly it seemed to me a striped,

Thanks also to those who already had informed me of the morph



Yes Nanci, the "cool" clucth

It looks like you've already come to terms with this, but yea, it's "just" a Motley. Judging from the parents, it has one Stripe gene, and one Motley gene. I had a clutch like this recently, and the Motley/Stripes varied consiterably. There were some that looked like normal Motleys, and some that look like yours, one long Pin Stripe. They are all only het Motley though.. possesing one Motley gene and one Stripe gene.

Here's are a few things that distinctly characterize Motley from Stripe. Motleys have a rounded off pattern at the neck. A Stripe's neck will be two straight stripes that lead all the way up to the neck, there is no break. A Motley's long pin stripe will round out and break off before the head pattern, as yours does.

Also, note the rounded off Motley pattern near the tail. This is characteristic of Motley. Stripes (not including cubes, an aberrant form of stripe,) patterns are strait and continuous lines that end right at the tail. Motleys have rounded out patterns that continue down their tails, as your baby does. The stripe of a Pin Stripe Motley is thinner than a Stripe's stripe, and it will be of varying thickness. A Stripe's stripe is thicker and generally even all the way down.

I don't want to hijack your thread, but sometimes visual examples are the best kind. Here are a few pictures, but I will include them in link form so that I don't dominate your thread.

All of these are Motley/Stripes.
http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/J3554C47/Hatchlings/?action=view&current=P1012483.jpg

http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/J3554C47/Hatchlings/?action=view&current=P1012558.jpg

One that looks considerably like yours.. note that all of these snakes have the same genes. The Motley gene can manifest itself in many different ways.
http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/J3554C47/Hatchlings/?action=view&current=P1012548.jpg

And here are two Stripes
http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/J3554C47/Hatchlings/?action=view&current=P1012533.jpg

http://s368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/J3554C47/Sangria/?action=view&current=P1013363.jpg

Hopefully the visuals will help you distinguish between a Motley/Stripe and a Stripe. Sometimes it can be really confusing with the Pin Stripe Motleys.. especially when they have one really long dorsal stripe.

 

[CobraPt]

Thanks for the explanation Jessica.