Striped X Motley results

[marchettid]

I read this on the VMSherp.com site -> "It is currently believed that the motley and stripe allele share the same locus. Thus specimens with two motley alleles appear motley patterned, those with two striped alleles appear striped and those with one of each appear intermediate (e.g. 'striped motley')"

This description of the stripe and motley patterns seems similar to the amel and ultramel idea, but I don't think it is exactly the same principal. My question is the following: When breeding a Motley to a Stripe, what are the results in the F1? I put the scenario into the genericgenwizard, and it showed the F1s would look motley, all het for stripe. Hmmm...

With all of these alleles sharing the same locus, it seems as though there is almost an infinite amount of color and pattern variations possible.

Thanks for any expertise.

 

[snakemom1961]

Now after seeing those Trinket snakes.......a mot/stripe would be awsome!

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

You get Motley looking offspring het for Stripe [technically they are both het Motley & Stripe, but they don't LOOK normal, they look Motley]. I like to use the term "Ribbon" Motley for some of the funky offspring that comes from such a pairing.

These are all Motleys het Stripe:

Not all Motley het Stripe will look like this, some will have the "perfect" Motley pattern.

 

[Rich Z]

Well, here's a photo of the results I got by breeding Butter Stripe to Butter Motley:

And to show the difference, this is a shot of the results of Butter Stripe to Butter Stripe:

 

[marchettid]

so breeding a male motley to a female stripe results in

motleys all het stripe.

what hapens in the F2 if i were to breed the motleys het stripe to eachother? All motleys, and some Motley Stripes right.

Are motley stripes even identifiable, or would they all just look like the "ribbon motleys"?

Pictures of motley stripes may help

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

My Ribbon Motleys are Motleys het Stripe. When I say "Ribbon Motley" I'm referring to the pattern. They can be het Stripe, or they can't. It would depend on the parents.

Motley het Stripe x Motley het Stripe =

Motleys
Stripes
Motleys het Stripe

It can be difficult identifying a Ribbon Motleys compared to a Stripe however. If you're experienced with working with Stripes, it's much easier to identify what's what.

 

[marchettid]

i understand everything your saying. I believe the "ribbon motley" you are speaking of is when some of the motleys are blobbed together, like some of the pictures both you and rich presented.

Simply, how is true motley stripe produced, and do they look any different then motleys het stripe? Does anyone have a picture of a motley stipe?

 

[Blue Apple Herps]

i understand everything your saying. I believe the "ribbon motley" you are speaking of is when some of the motleys are blobbed together, like some of the pictures both you and rich presented.

Simply, how is true motley stripe produced, and do they look any different then motleys het stripe? Does anyone have a picture of a motley stipe?

Rich's picture is of nothing but motley-stripes.

You 100% have motley stripes if you breed a motley to a stripe. If you breed motley stripe to a motley stripe it would be impossible to 100% identify the motley stripes from the motley, however, the stripes would be able to be identified.

 

[diamondlil]

Do all stripes have the 'bear' head marking?

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Simply, how is true motley stripe produced, and do they look any different then motleys het stripe? Does anyone have a picture of a motley stipe?

I do not use "Motley-Stripe" when referring to het Motley & Stripe because people also use the term "Motley-Stripe" for snakes that do not carry Stripe at all. That is why I use Motley het Stripe instead.

You can not tell the difference between a Motley & a Motley het Stripe 100%.