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Surprise! - I'm a Grandma!

Mrs InsaneOne

I See Snakes...
Well, we just had our first piplings peeking out from their shells today and we didn't figure that we'd have actual hatchlings until tomorrow at the earliest. So, when doing an eveing check on the egg box what do we find curled up way in the back hiding behind the moss?

A cute little critter looking up at us with bright pink eyes.

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We suspect it is a snow, but we'll see how he/she looks after the first shed or two. If it turns out to be a snow, then pappa was hiding a het anery in his genes.

Here's some pics of mom and dad:

Mom, Pearl, a snow corn. ACR#4425
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Dad, Sandstone, a reverse okeetee from Kathy Love that just might turn out to be het Anery A. ACR# 4426
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I'll post more pics when a few more of the little piplings decide to roam the egg box.

Enjoy!

Jenn
 
Thanks xavusangel, it's Victoria right?? (Am bad with names! lol)

Congrats!
Definately looks like a snow to me

We're hoping it's a snow, well I am for sure. It means daddy has more options down the road as a breeder instead of just a nice addition to the collection! lol.

I can't wait to see what else we get out of the clutch! The two pippies that have broken through appear to be amel, both have lots of bright reds on thier faces, so we'll see what we have tomorrow when I get up!

Thanks again for the comments you two!

Jenn
 
Thank you everyone for the wonderful comments! *wag*

The first little pipling has decided it will join it's sibling today and I must say, this little amel has an attitude! It struck at me eight or nine times as I was carefully pulling the moss back to snap my photo. Takes after daddy I think, lol.

I think I feel safe in calling yesterdays hatchling a snow now too, you can see the definate difference between the two in this photo. (Yeah, their personalities are as different as their colors. The snow didn't even rise into striking position last night when I took it's picture! lol)

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3 more eggs have pipped during the wee hours of early morn too, and one looks like the critter inside is trying to pip, but couldn't get through the shell yet. I'll keep my fingers crossed and see what happens over the next couple of days!

Thank again, for the comments and all of the advice that was given both directly and indirectly. I don't think we'd have done nearly so well on this first clutch if not for the support of everyone here! :bowdown: :D

Jenn :crazy02:
 
Thank you! There will definately be more pictures of the hatchlings as they come out! I love all of my critters, but there is something special about seeing hatchlings make their way out into the world that makes me want to sit and watch them for hours on end!

It's been so hard restraining myself to no more then 3 peeks a day.. once when I first get up, once in the afternoon, and once just before I go to bed. I try to keep my hands out of the box too, only reached in once or twice to move the moss around so I could take a few pictures of those already out of their eggs.

Jenn
 
Dad has a nice yellow backgroundcolor!

Thanks. He was actually one of Kathy Love's 2003 holdbacks that we picked up late 2004 or mid 2005, I can't remember to tell you the truth. :crazy02: It's taken us over a year though to get him settled down enough to hold him. We're hoping one or two of he amels that hatched out get his coloring though!

Speaking of which, we've had 4 more exit the egg between last night and this morning, oddly enough the count is currently at 3 snows and 3 amels. And of the latest four pips it looks like we have at least 2 more snows and 2 more amels still in the egg. I guess the 50/50 chance of snow is going to be right on the money! lol

Here are the hatchlings though:

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And yes, the snow in the second picture still has part of the cord attached to it, I rescued it just as the cord got caught on some moss and moved it into a clean tupper w/ a damp/moist paper towel. It's the runt of the litte weighing in at a whole 3 grams even. I don't know if the little worm is going to make it, but I hope it does. It won't be a breeder, but it will make a nice pet for someone I think.

Only 2 eggs left that appear not to have pipped (though one belongs to the first snow, I just can't figure out which one! lol) and one that appears to be dead in the eggs. It attempted to pip, but never broke the shell and there are been no movement for two days. I won't hold my breath though, because it was in the egg that I always thought would go bad. Still, 5 healthy hatchlings, 1 runt, and 4 more apparently heathly pips aren't too bad for a first clutch! :crazy02:

ENJOY!

Jenn
 
Blutengel said:
3 grams, that snow must be TINY!!!!

Very tiny, more like a skinny earth worm than a corn hatchling. It's still doing fine, these 7 or 8 hours after finding it, but it'll be days or weeks before we know if it will survive. It came out of the smallest egg, one that never expanded - so I was expecting a small corn, just not that small!

Jenn
 
We have yet more hatchlings! Yeah! 2 more amels and 1 more snow crawled out during the night and I couldn't resist snapping a few pictures before I took them out and weighed them in!

Here they are!
This one was tiny, weighs only 2g but looks healthier then the 3g snow that came out yesterday! I'll re-weigh it after it settles down a bit to see if it was an accurate weigh in.
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Next up is the second amel and he came in at 4g, but doesn't look much smaller then the rest of the 5g hatchlings.
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And here's the snow...
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I also have some group pictures of those cute little critters... The first one of two hatchlings just looked too cute sitting all curled up together and I couldn't help but get a pic of them before disturbing them!
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And then the third little guy had to come over and join the crowd!
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That brings up up to a total of 9 hatchlings and 1 pip still in the egg. There are two eggs that haven't pipped and one snow dead in the egg. The thing that bugs me the most though, is that I still can't figure out which egg that first snow came from! Each time I thought I'd figured it out, I was proved wrong when the egg in question pipped!

I counted empty eggs today, and still came up with only 8 empties and I have 9 hatchlings. The nearest I can guess is that one of them was a twin. I'd guess twin to the runt snow that came out yesterday, but I watched that snow pip the egg myself, and it was too small of an egg to house 2 snakes. The other 2 snows that came out were too big and healthy to have shared an egg with the first one.

So, like, did that first snow just appear out of thin air??? Or did it climb into the box from the shelf?? I can't figure it out and it is driving me crazy! I know it didn't come from the two unpipped eggs, because those are both unmarred and heavy. I lifted them today for the first time because I thought the one clump was just empties and found that the egg was whole. I carefully put them back and checked the second clump and found the same thing.

I just don't get it! lol

Jenn
 
On a side note, the little runt snow dropped its cord last night. It's still alive today, but seems very weak. There was even a point last night when we thought it was dead because it was twisted upside down half under the damp paper towel. It just got itself stuck though because it was looking for a hide which I gladly provided once the cord had dropped.

I strongly suspect that the little guy won't last much longer though. Just seems too sickly. *sigh* But I guess my Kingly Garbage Disposal will be happy about that. Sounds cruel to some, but beats have a collection of dead snakes in the freezer for months on end because the ground is too hard and dry here to bury them and tossing them in the garbage here is not an option. (Creeple nieghbors have no respect for other people's trash!)

Anyway, Thank for looking and I hope you enjoyed the pics!
Jenn
 
Cute critters! I really thought my hatchlings were average sized, weighing 7 or 8 grams. Is 4-5 grams the usual weigh in weight of hatchlings?
 
Blutengel said:
Cute critters! I really thought my hatchlings were average sized, weighing 7 or 8 grams. Is 4-5 grams the usual weigh in weight of hatchlings?

Thank you, and you know, I'm not sure. I think ours are a bit on the small side, and it might have to do with the fact that it was our female snow's first clutch. I did discover that both the 3g snow and the 2g amel were both the surviving half of two sets of twins. There was a nasty soup like mix filling half of the eggs they emerged from and it was fairly gross with patially formed critters. I hope to never see that again, but I realise that can be a futile wish in this hobby.

:crazy02:

Jenn
 
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