garweft
My dog wears funny hats
Should say ....by half or more every year until recently....
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Tessera price drop
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Should say ....by half or more every year until recently....
ghosthousecorns
Well-known member
I got mine through a trade so I wouldn't really lose money if the price tanked, but the thought of making any profit never really crossed my mind. I want to make "tesscinders" and ghost tesseras. And since I have a female I will have a long wait and then only one clutch per year of them. It will not surprise me if they get cheaper faster than a recessive morph would, but it is still really cool to finally have a co-dom corn snake mutation.
Dreamsnake
New member
There isn't a flooded market for corn snakes in New Mexico. The pet stores and few breeders keep the prices for common morphs high. When I start breeding in a few years I'd like to get a Tessera to add in with the strawberry lines I hope to start. By then there should be a wide variety of snakes with the hets I need.
SquamishSerpents
Katia
any pewter tesseras yet?
StrangeCargo
New member
The price drop last year on regular colored Tesseras reflected the current market. Even at that, customers who invested $1,200 a few years ago will be breeding their animals this season... evan at females being $450 each, they'd only have to sell 3 Tesseras to cover their initial investment. We all know that even a small corn clutch is 8-10 eggs... if ~ 1/2 are Tesseras, they paid for their investments & made alittle extra the FIRST year breeding. Everything from here on out if fun & more profits.
Whats exciting are the upcoming color combos! Their rarity & market will reflect the prices...heck, I haven't even really set prices yet for 2011 Tessera MORPHS. My Tessera Okeetees will probably be set at the same price are "regular" tesseras since they won't be carrying any hets...JUST BOLD extra thick blacks (should be awesome). We'll try to figure out prices on the other morphs once we see what we have... I did VERY limited Tessera breedings this year- I'll only have a handful to sell- an will leave alot of market space for other breeders to market their investments!
They are still a great investment in my viewpoint- especially the colormorphs or the Tesseras that are 100% het for genes you wanna work with. There's only been a few morphs produced to date and all have looked great. Reading the above posts it seems that most people have their own ideas on what THEY'D like to see Tesseras bred into- and thats the beauty of it- there's still a chance to be the 1st to produce the morph you dream up.
I know everyone is taking off on the morph path with 'em (and I too have a few morphs I'm working on) BUT the majority of my Tessera breedings will be back into developing an Extreme Okeetee bloodline of them... the bold blacks on a tessera are awesome... heck, y'all know I'm an Okeetee nut at heart.
Good luck everyone with your 2011 production. For others who are still wanting Tesseras, this will be a great year to get 'em. The base prices are within price range of most hobbyists and a majority of us have cool animals at home that we could breed into 'em to create our own jaw dropping Tessera projects!
Whats exciting are the upcoming color combos! Their rarity & market will reflect the prices...heck, I haven't even really set prices yet for 2011 Tessera MORPHS. My Tessera Okeetees will probably be set at the same price are "regular" tesseras since they won't be carrying any hets...JUST BOLD extra thick blacks (should be awesome). We'll try to figure out prices on the other morphs once we see what we have... I did VERY limited Tessera breedings this year- I'll only have a handful to sell- an will leave alot of market space for other breeders to market their investments!
They are still a great investment in my viewpoint- especially the colormorphs or the Tesseras that are 100% het for genes you wanna work with. There's only been a few morphs produced to date and all have looked great. Reading the above posts it seems that most people have their own ideas on what THEY'D like to see Tesseras bred into- and thats the beauty of it- there's still a chance to be the 1st to produce the morph you dream up.
I know everyone is taking off on the morph path with 'em (and I too have a few morphs I'm working on) BUT the majority of my Tessera breedings will be back into developing an Extreme Okeetee bloodline of them... the bold blacks on a tessera are awesome... heck, y'all know I'm an Okeetee nut at heart.
Good luck everyone with your 2011 production. For others who are still wanting Tesseras, this will be a great year to get 'em. The base prices are within price range of most hobbyists and a majority of us have cool animals at home that we could breed into 'em to create our own jaw dropping Tessera projects!
cornmorphs
New member
I said around 2 years ago that I would wait until they bomb. having usually paid top dollar over the years. i decided I simply couldnt and wouldnt this time.
so, my plan was to buy one for probably under $100 next year.. I may be a bit off on this, but probably not a great deal.
Everybody has the same idea, so gets a male, pumps it with food and mates to all possible females when he is a year old.. for now, virtually everyone will get their money back, and some.
The corn market in general is as poor as I have ever known, I had thought with Rich z selling up, that the year after may have been good for everyone thereafter, but so far hasnt been.
Most of us have been having to sell top morphs for low prices, and one thing that i dont get?, the uk prices are cheaper for most morphs.. how the hell did this happen?
just to add to this, I cant wait to get started on tesseras. They look awesome, and in many colours they will be amazing.
so, my plan was to buy one for probably under $100 next year.. I may be a bit off on this, but probably not a great deal.
Everybody has the same idea, so gets a male, pumps it with food and mates to all possible females when he is a year old.. for now, virtually everyone will get their money back, and some.
The corn market in general is as poor as I have ever known, I had thought with Rich z selling up, that the year after may have been good for everyone thereafter, but so far hasnt been.
Most of us have been having to sell top morphs for low prices, and one thing that i dont get?, the uk prices are cheaper for most morphs.. how the hell did this happen?
just to add to this, I cant wait to get started on tesseras. They look awesome, and in many colours they will be amazing.
Nanci
Alien Lover
Under $100? Probably not any time soon! I have one tessera, a gorgeous black and orange male, thank you Don!! I'm with Graham- the morphs are going to be cool, very cool, but the nice Okeetee-colored classics are going to be striking, and with line breeding will or course be every bit as desireable as an extreeme okeetee or a top-shelf Miami. My guy only has one date planned for next year, BTW...
cornmorphs
New member
I noticed many at 300-350 last year, this is a year on and most people have the same idea. There will be shed loads about.
Initially they will still be high in demand, but pretty soon I am certain they will be down close to those prices for normals with no specific hets.
its just an opinion, but looking at how ultra went, this is going to be quicker than ultra gene, so the hit will be coming.
I dont mind personally, means I can get what I want nice and cheap, then start making all my own.
I;ve had my time of spending $1000 on a pair of normals with rare hets, then 3 and 4 years later selling the visuals at 10th of that, so its my turn lol.
Initially they will still be high in demand, but pretty soon I am certain they will be down close to those prices for normals with no specific hets.
its just an opinion, but looking at how ultra went, this is going to be quicker than ultra gene, so the hit will be coming.
I dont mind personally, means I can get what I want nice and cheap, then start making all my own.
I;ve had my time of spending $1000 on a pair of normals with rare hets, then 3 and 4 years later selling the visuals at 10th of that, so its my turn lol.
Nanci
Alien Lover
The thing Tessera has going for it though is it doesn't have the hybrid stigma like ultra does. There is no question that Tessera is a pure cornsnake gene.
I hear you on the high-end morph price drops- I haven't even bred my hypolavender stripes yet!! Oh well, they are still pretty. I wonder how that would look in Tessera? ;-)
I hear you on the high-end morph price drops- I haven't even bred my hypolavender stripes yet!! Oh well, they are still pretty. I wonder how that would look in Tessera? ;-)
StrangeCargo
New member
VOLA Nanci! Anyone can recreate a Tessera Morph they want through a few simple steps.... BUT through SELECTIVE BREEDING it creates a product (animal) that is difficult to recreate, it'd take them MULTIPLE GENERATIONS and alot of selective breeding...
I LOVE Miami Corns--- The classic (hard to get) CLEAN silver backgrounds with BOLD red blotches... I COULD buy some nice miamis...selectively breed them, holding back babies over several generations and MAYBE after 7-8 years create something close to what I'm looking for....OR... I could send Carol an email begging for a screamer pair of her "Top Shelf" Miamis...she's put the work in already and I'd be happy to pay her asking price (which- for the amount of work she's put into those great animals is too low IMHO- great job) and get PERFECT Miamis.
Selective Breeding creates a product that kinda corners a market- if someone wants that, it's NOT just a simple process of homos & hets BUT generations of blood & sweat! I'm starting early while everyone is chasing MORPHS... Should put me a gerneration or two ahead of most!
Don's Okeetee Tesseras showed me the possibilities. I'll produce ones like those this year. Raise those up and the next generation (bred back into an Extreme Okeetee) will be even more breathtaking. At least thats what I'm hoping!
BloodyBaroness
Captain Titsworth
I'm just getting more and more excited about being able to purchase a Tessera for myself. My goal is a female amel tessera.
The morph possibilities with this pattern are dazzling!!
The morph possibilities with this pattern are dazzling!!
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
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You just did !! but you might want to go to the ""General chit chat" forum and post your question there!!
rickmoss95
New member
i totally agree Graham! it is funny how people just want to buy morphs, but rarely take in the beauty that years of selectively bred animals truely are. plus the years of hark work makes them all the more special(especially to the one who produces them!). there is no better morph out there than some of the f4 or f5 generations of certain traits...in my opinion. i do love my morphs, dont get me wrong, but you are hard pressed to beat years of selectively bred animals...especially when done right and outcrossing with new blood(which only takes the process longer!).
