The Should-Bloodred-Morphs-Have-Separate-Names Thread

[So Pirate55]

Hey man, welcome to the forums. You dont have to tread quite so lightly. The majority of people on here are pretty understanding on any opinion, just as long as it doesnt put people or snakes in danger. That being said, i know exaclty what you mean.

I think the term Raider corn was one that was sorta thrown out there as a suggestion, thinking that no one would actually take it serious. The man who coined himself said that it was not that great of a name and would like for everyone to "let it die" so to speak. The thing most people are getting worked up over seems to be the terms blood/diffused, and whether to combine several morphs into one name (Snow blood or Snow diffused opposed to Avalanche Corn) There's already a combination of both in effect. (Anery A Blood and Pewter (anery b blood which is also charcoal blood)) there's people who are clearly on one side of the fence while some are clearly on the other. I think it's a balance of the 2. I dont mind hearing Avalanche Corn being used as a name, however, until it's circulation becomes as well known as an amber or a pewter for better example, i think the seller should have in parethesis what it's composed of.

Once some unity among the cornsnake world starts to form and we all associate Avalanche with Snow blood as we do Pewter with charcoal blood, then it'd be cool to just call it an avalanche. The only test for a name is whether or not it's able to withstand the test of time. i personally like the trade names, because i wouldnt feel like telling everyone that i had an Anerythristic Amelanistic with a Diffused Pattern everytime i decided to list my snakes. However as much as i like easy common names, i like stability as well. i think it's going to take a combination of them both to achieve that.



Maybe someone could help me out here. I read in one of these discussions that Granite corn was used to describe some other morph other than Anery A Blood, but i never saw which morph. So what morph was it used to describe? i'd appreciate it.

 

[mjh1000001]

I thought anery A bloodred was the same as a granite. If i'm mistaken what is a granite then.

 

[Joejr14]

I thought anery A bloodred was the same as a granite. If i'm mistaken what is a granite then.

It is the same, it's just that this thread is two years old and those ideas were being thrown around back then.....

 

[mjh1000001]

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[jaxom1957]

How about Cinder Corns? Does that bring to mind a black and gray snake or an orange snake?

Cinder brings to my mind a cooling lump of burnt wood, grey on the outside but still red in the hot center. This describes aptly and poetically how Anery C (Ashy, Anery Z, etc.) snakes look.

 

[El Jefe]

I know this post is a couple years old but that is interesting the Joe P. mentioned Cinder back then and now it is being used from a totally different morph.

 

[Emanon]

I know this post is a couple years old but that is interesting the Joe P. mentioned Cinder back then and now it is being used from a totally different morph.

some people are just attatched to a name :wavey:

 

[starsevol]

I like most of the trade names. I would like to see a trade name for an anery hypo diffused. Ghost blood or ghost diffused sounds nothing like hypo granite, but they are both the same!

 

[blizz]

I like those pretty names, because they short and sounds often really good.
What abaout "misty" or "haze" for ghostbloods/diffusedghost?

 

[Chris Olson]

I know this is an old thread....but my two cents; I prefer adding the preffix diffused to bloodred morphs. Example: Diffused Snow instead of Avalanche, Diffused Lavender instead of Plasma, Diffused Ghost, so on and so forth. I haven't produced any of those animals. But when I do in a couple of years, that is how I will sell them.

Chris

 

[Cam5]

Absolutly! I only use the term "diffuse." Most of us breed for the resale aspect...how confused do you think someone will get if you say you have an anery bloodred? I think that gene and coloration should be two different things. Charcoal bloodreds are pewters...thats a start.

Compared to everyone else on this forum I seem to be a newbie. I have the housing, heating, disinfecting, lighting, parasite medication and administration down.

I am working on the feeding thing (yes our corn is 4 years old but according the the munson plan I need to up the prey size) :cheers:

I am still working on the don't panic during a food strike thing :eek1:

I am TOTALLY CLUELESS as to all these morphs descriptions...while I think they are fantastic for documentaion, credibility and sale purposes (when there is no photo). And while it is fun to have the official name when talking to those in the know. I find I would need a picture flow chart before I could even begin to comprehend what is going on.

When we brought home our corn we were told he was a phantom, then someone said he was pewter etc. :shrugs: I think the last person on this forum clued me in that he is Anery...and actually explained what it all meant.

Either way for us pet cornsnake owners it doesn't matter...we love them no matter their morph

 

[ghosthousecorns]

Too bad there isn't a 'don't care' option. I have stayed out of the granite debate because it is a morph I personally care little for (I'm talking anery blood granite, I think the striped keys look intriguing even if it isn't a new gene). I'm going to vote #2, at least when there isn't a trade name there is less confusion. I think some of the trade names can get silly anyway. And I think the fact that some of the trade names are refering to hybrids (jungle and so on) could be cleared up by calling these snakes what they are, corn/kings. It doesn't really matter, if you are really into the hobby you will learn what is what. But for a beginner 'bloodred charcoal' might be easier to understand than 'pewter' though less marketable. It's not like everybody is going to start saying hypo anery instead of ghost or amel anery instead of snow, but with newer stuff I would be fine with calling the combination by the genes and it would mean a lot less stuff to have to try and remember. With the morphs I actually own it is easier, but sometimes someone will be talking about avalance or sulphur and I have to scratch my head and look up what it is.

 

[CMLReptiles]

I like using the trade names simply because hypomelanistic lavender bloodred amel is a bit of a mouthful

 

[Maxim]

........bull to create a name only when it is descriptive and well sounding! you can see the complication between pepper, granite and pewter. additionally, why does only a butter bloodred looks like sulfur? it is only a yellow snake. why is a blizzard bloodred a "whiteout" animal? could you realy tell me the difference in colouration between fire and lava?