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Visible Hets?

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Had to rep Susan on that but I think I repped her before bu I will get ya soon!
I mean really people. We all have bad days. I really fixed the issue and got better then was presented with a stellar chance to have some awesome animals! I am very interested in this genetic formula. My Guyer Ghost is 50% het. Motley and her saddles end abruptly and her sides near her neck look very motley like. She ate today so I don’t want to disturb her but I am sure I will get pics soon.
 
The neck thing is pretty common so it's not a good indication for being het. That said, despite my earlier snarkyness.... >_> since you're already getting them I *do* look forward to piccies.
 
Of course you look forward to my piccies! I also found a mouse vendor that charges 20$ less for mice! I now have a lower mcie cost. And I DO have $300 in reserve
 
Couple of other het traits you can detect:

Het motley het stripe is visible - as motley.
Het Amel het Ultra is visible - as Ultramel.

"Visible hets" happen when traits are not completely recessive - whether they are dominant to the other gene on the pair (like motley) or codominant to the other gene on the pair (like Amel/Ultra). Although it's nice to have three boxes and put genes in one of the three, the fact is that it's more like a sliding scale of relationship between each allele on the gene pair - so, for example:

Bloodred relationship to Normal:

Recessive --------------*--------Codominant-------------------------Dominant

Motley relationship to Stripe:

Recessive------------------------Codominant-----------------*-------Dominant

Granted, my expression of where each gene fits on the continuum is approximate, and is set to account for the fact that "Some motley het stripes seem to show some stripe influence, but they don't have to, therefore motley is more dominant to stripe than it is codominant to stripe" and "not all bloodreds show het influence, but many do, therefore it is closer to being codominant to normal than it is to being recessive to normal."
 
snakemaster24 said:
Had to rep Susan on that but I think I repped her before bu I will get ya soon!
I mean really people. We all have bad days. I really fixed the issue and got better then was presented with a stellar chance to have some awesome animals! I am very interested in this genetic formula. My Guyer Ghost is 50% het. Motley and her saddles end abruptly and her sides near her neck look very motley like. She ate today so I don’t want to disturb her but I am sure I will get pics soon.
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The problem is David. You say you were having a bad day when you said you were going to get rid of all your animals. yadda yadda yadda, then you said in the same thread you were stressed having a bad day and were going to "slow down". Yet not a week later we hear your getting 2 NOT 1, BUT 2 more snakes? after you had just gotten your dragon and said you were maxed on snakes? MY GOD KID! why all the BS about wanting respect from the people iin this community and yet you continue to prove you have no respect for what these awesome, knowledgable people have tried to tell you countless times.
 
Snakemom, if you really were listening you would have read. That I got my herp room set up. I did not expect to get it set up before the New Year. But my mom and I went and cleared it out. Therefore allowing more room for animals and I also picked up a job for the summer at a local camp. I work a month and it pays 1500$. That’s good money. And it allows for more money to pay for more expenses.
 
Susan said:
I'm getting sick of this. Honestly, who really cares what someone else does with their collection? Leaving, quitting, getting more, cutting back. None of it should matter to anyone that it doesn't affect. If you don't like reading about this kid's trials and tribulations on a daily basis, change the channel. There are plenty of other personal little dramas on this forum to occupy your time with. You know what this one is all about, so just move on to fresh meat.
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Did you read this snakemadre?
 
I agree with Susan on this one.

I'm generally unmotivated to comment on ANY of David's threads or posts for two reasons. 1) I don't want to waste my breath, as he has shown he doesn't actually want to listen to advice, even when he solicits it. 2) I don't want to feed the attention-monger.

I can see why people would be concerned about his getting more animals than he can handle if they were concerned for the welfare of the animals. But he seems to take perfectly good care of his animals, and I doubt that if he gets overwhelmed he'll stop doing so. I'm sure, just like everyone else here, he'll sell a few things when he can't keep up or loses interest or can't find someone to care for them when he's in college or needs a little cash. No biggie--people do that all the time. Why can't he?

If it's just the attention-seeking that irritates you (as it does me and which, in my assessment, is what all this "I'm-slowing-down! I'm-getting-more! I'm-overwhelmed! I'm-getting-more! Oh-nooooes! My-heat-cable-broke!" business is about), just don't positively reinforce it. :shrugs:
 
Well I have not said anything in any of Davids thread's if my recollection serves me correct ,however I have spent a few hours reading what has transpired and my thoughts are this,for a teenager you have a ton of animals.three hundred dollars reserve is great if you collect stamps not for vet bills.You have flip flopped on things so many times your commitment level is not where it needs to be for caring for so many animals..I get the impression that you are like so many of today's society that is continually trying to fill this bottomless pit whether it be with shoe,cars drugs,sex or snakes it is unsatisfiable thirst that must be brought into check..


Life is a series of checks and balances I have two snakes a five year old and a 2009 and yes I would love more but I have to check whether everything else is in balance time money and commitment level and at this point I am happy with those balances.

Say what you mean and mean what you say the inter-web will not forget and the people behind the monitors have time and emotions to make sure you remember that..
 
Mr.Pohada said:
Well I have not said anything in any of Davids thread's if my recollection serves me correct ,however I have spent a few hours reading what has transpired and my thoughts are this,for a teenager you have a ton of animals.three hundred dollars reserve is great if you collect stamps not for vet bills.You have flip flopped on things so many times your commitment level is not where it needs to be for caring for so many animals..I get the impression that you are like so many of today's society that is continually trying to fill this bottomless pit whether it be with shoe,cars drugs,sex or snakes it is unsatisfiable thirst that must be brought into check..


Life is a series of checks and balances I have two snakes a five year old and a 2009 and yes I would love more but I have to check whether everything else is in balance time money and commitment level and at this point I am happy with those balances.

Say what you mean and mean what you say the inter-web will not forget and the people behind the monitors have time and emotions to make sure you remember that..
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It's true that he has flip-flopped. But as long as his animals are in good health, who cares what he says? You may even be right about him trying to fill a bottomless pit, but really, neither of us is his mom or his dad, and no one here can fix that if it's true, and what business is it of ours if that's the case? You're also right that life is a series of checks and balances. But right now he doesn't have a mortgage or a kid or a spouse or a car payment, so his balance is clearly a lot different from yours and mine. And it will inevitably change. When it does, I hope he finds suitable homes for his animals. He probably will. Probably here. Where's the tragedy in that? I also agree that people should say what they mean and mean what they say, but that's a personal issue that has nothing to do with whether he cares adequately for his animals (but is why I choose not to interact with David on the boards).
 
David has come a looooooong way from how he used to be. Granted, on occasion, his youthful arrogance rears it's ugly head, but where any of us, any different at that age? I sincerely think not! It's great to be young and full of piss and vinegar.

So let's give the kid a break, instead of beating him over the head, over every little thing he says. We all have bad days and have probably said things we wish we hadn't.

Wayne
 
medusacoils said:
. . . but where any of us, any different at that age? I sincerely think not! It's great to be young and full of piss and vinegar.
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I sincerely think so. ;) I'm old and full of piss and vinegar--that hasn't changed. But I was thoughtful and logical and measured at 15. I didn't like typical adolescents any better then than I do now.
 
desertanimal said:
I sincerely think so. ;) I'm old and full of piss and vinegar--that hasn't changed. But I was thoughtful and logical and measured at 15. I didn't like typical adolescents any better then than I do now.
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I can understand, relate and appreciate that, but we all do not mature at the same rate. So knowing that, it's not worth hounding the poor kid, every time he writes a sentence on this forum. And I'm not saying you do personally, but some other members of this forum just can't seem to leave the poor kid alone. They are drawn to him like a moth to a flame. It's irritating to see.

If you don't like him or the things he says, then don't read what he posts. There is a block feature on this forum!

Just a thought!

Wayne
 
My issue is that people treat me like I am their child! Well I am not. People have been saying if ya don't like it don't read it! People sit and look at their computer and they can tell I made a thread yet they insist on reading it. But of course you know that I am the kid that upsets you for reasons unknown to me! I want to be a valued member here, I am on so many other forums. Even the ones that know of my past and sure we argue but they say deep down David is a good kid. Sometimes you need to remember when you were 15 or 16. Of course you can use the ignore button or even just not look at my threads. Some people tell me to stay off their threads yet I see them post on my threads.
 
My issue is that people treat me like I am their child! Well I am not.
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Technically - yes, you still are a child.
Regardless of your age though - if you want to be treated like an adult - then you have to act like one which you usually do not. That is why people treat you like a child. You ask for advice, don't like what is given to you and do what you want, then don't understand why everyone is mean to you. You tell us repeatedly that you are slowing down and not getting any more pets - then within a short time, guess what - you get more! You do this over and over and over again. How can you expect people to respect you and take you seriously when you cannot even manage to keep something that simple straight? I don't care if it was a good deal or you got your snake room done early. When you say you are going to do something - then do it. That makes all the difference in the world to people. And I know I (and probably a lot of others here) certainly do not want to hear you whining again about being overwhelmed or having a bad week when you can't even manage to go a week or two without adding to your collection.
 
I can't believe I'm going to do this. I'm going to use the ignore function for the first time ever. I've never felt the need to block or ignore anyone on ANY site before, but it has finally come down to that. Go ahead, Dave. You're free to talk behind my back now.
 
snakemaster24 said:
My issue is that people treat me like I am their child! Well I am not. People have been saying if ya don't like it don't read it! People sit and look at their computer and they can tell I made a thread yet they insist on reading it. But of course you know that I am the kid that upsets you for reasons unknown to me! I want to be a valued member here, I am on so many other forums. Even the ones that know of my past and sure we argue but they say deep down David is a good kid. Sometimes you need to remember when you were 15 or 16. Of course you can use the ignore button or even just not look at my threads. Some people tell me to stay off their threads yet I see them post on my threads.
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Sometimes it better to own your mistakes, rather them explain them away. You have said things, made comments that upset people, little man. Then you try to justify it or excuse it, by referring to your age. You have to remember that YOU and only YOU are responsible for the things you say or do.

Take care!

Wayne
 
Oh no! The dreaded flip flopper!

You know, reading this and other threads really pis$es me off. You don't know David personally. You don't know his family. All you see if the stuff that he posts on this damnn forum. What you DO know is, that despite being occasionally overwhelmed, he is enthusiastic about his animals and takes great care of them. So what else really matters?!
He knows what he's doing, and for being so much younger than all of you, he's very successful. His snakes are not being neglected, in fact, they're very healthy, loved animals. He wasn't asking for your time to be wasted "flaming" him and tearing him apart. He was asking for SUPPORT from other people who have been through what he is going through. We all get burned out.

I don't want to go to school every day at eight oclock, and I don't want to go to work after that. That doesn't mean that I'm irresponsible, because I'm still doing it. It's my choice.

What if every time you said "I sometimes get tired of caring for all of these snakes" to one of your friends, they followed you around everywhere you went, telling you that you are irresponsible, stupid, and that they can't stand you? Because that's exactly what you're doing. If I were new to this forum and I looked at how you treated him, I would have decided not to join. I would possibly have decided to never even get a second corn snake.

I think that you all need to re-learn the phrase "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". The only time you should not use this life lesson is when someone is injuring something else - which David is NOT doing!

You treat him like a peice of sh!t. That's really, really not cool. Act like the adults you are.
 
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