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Where do the come from?

razorback

razorback

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I have been given the advice, many times over, to purcahse my corn snakes from a reputable breeder...which I always have. However, I was asked a very simple, but important question by a child the other day. Where does the PetsMart, or Petco in our city get it's baby corns? Good question, do they have breeders that supply them specifically, or do they buy from "reputable breeders" like I would? Is this a dangerous subject? Should I be watching my back?

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some pet stores get them from reputable breeders. others i know of (up here theres only 1 pet store ) and they get them from a breeder wwho breeds them because "its fun" and they won't tell you if you ask them "where do you get yur corns"
 
I don't know about PetsMart, but Petco usually gets theirs from a company called "Gourmet Rodent", they also supply their feeders. They mass produce their corns, so who knows what their health and genetics are. Locally owned petstores might get corns from a breeder, and you could ask them who.
 
The stores in my area say they get them from a local breeder???? But as far as I know there is no breeder local, except Jen and I know they aren't hers. The other day I was in my local "reptile store" there was a lady in there who said she bred corns, but didn't know morphs and sexed an adult in the store by looking at the tail??? susan
 
Theres 2 stores close to me and one breeds some there self and get the others from local breeders, and im not sure about the other.
 
they get them from a breeder wwho breeds them because "its fun" and they won't tell you if you ask them "where do you get yur corns"
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Well I "breed for fun" and supply my local reptile shop, but I wouldn't want them to start telling their customers my name. Pretty sure none of that makes me disreputable or my Corns of doubtful origin!

TBH, some of the ones my local reptile shop gets from established breeders with good reputations, are potentially pretty dodgy - the so-called "Hypo Motley Ghost" being a case in point.

If you really want impeccably-sourced Corns, then I'd say you're looking for a breeder who will let you visit their premises and check out the adults and general husbandry conditions. Personal recommendation from other keepers is also a good way of finding quality Corns.
 
bitsy said:
Well I "breed for fun" and supply my local reptile shop, but I wouldn't want them to start telling their customers my name. Pretty sure none of that makes me disreputable or my Corns of doubtful origin!
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This isn't what I mean. The person they get their corns from is a 14 year old teen who doesn't take care of the 2 corns they've got and hand off the babies to friends and the petstore. I mean I know the person. I never knew they had 2 corns till much later after I got my snake. The corns are housed together, eat once a month and have no heat what so ever. I'm amazed they can actually hatch the eggs.
 
Thats apauling, i know this shop treat there animals very well, they had a boa who was soon to give birth in the shop a few mounths ago was very cool i went in the other day and there was loads of babie :).
 
Well I "breed for fun" and supply my local reptile shop, but I wouldn't want them to start telling their customers my name. Pretty sure none of that makes me disreputable or my Corns of doubtful origin!
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No I don't think local breeders are disrepuatable either. But when a "breeder" doesn't know what morphs they have or they sex a snake by looking at the tail. I wonder.
I am sure you are a great breeder and I don't want to know their names, but I would like to know their reputation. Further when the pet shop doesn't know the morph or how to sex a snake, I have little faith in that shop and that breeder.
Sorry to infer all local breeders or shops are bad. susan
 
all i know is when we got spur he was named as a "black corn" and i told them its not a "black corn" that they have morphs and bought him on the spot.
 
Where I work, we cann the guy we get our corns from a "local breeder." I don't think he would want us giving out all of his information. We get our ball pythons from a wholesaler who always has great BP, but their corns are terrible. It really depends on the specific animal. We like to get from local people more because we can charge our customers less and the animals are generally healthier, but we have to rely on wholesalers for some things. Major chain stores get theirs from large suppliers. There is really no telling exactly where they came from.
 
There's some wonderful shops and some I want to take a bath after being inside them and seeing the apalling conditions, lol. I think it's a good idea to buy from a breeder and get references but some pet stores really do take good care of their snakes and can have the rare bargain.
I wouldn't like it if a store that purchased from me gave out my personal info to people, and most of them probably have policies about that kind of thing.But you can usually tell right away if their animals are well cared for or not.
I did sell some hatchlings to a couple of local petstores last year but as a breeder you kind of want your snakes to end up in a good place. A real small store bought some snakes from me and when I was delivering them the employee was visibly afraid when she opened the deli and got a tail rattled at her. Later on they told me they didn't want any more because the other ones they bought from me were 'vicious and aggressive' and I had to ask myself how are they being treated, maybe they are not being fed enough, etc.
Also these pet stores usually can only give you about $10 per snake which they turn around and sell for $50. So personally I'd rather not sell to them if I can avoid it :)
 
My local pet shop and reptile shop buy from local breeders who have babies left over that they want to get rid of. There's been some nice stuff in there. I bought my amel from one of the reptile stores at our local reptile show. Since then I've bought from reputable breeders both locally and from other states. The only problem with the petstore is that they sell them for $60-$70 instead of $30 or $35 for regular morphs.
 
My amel came from the local pet shop who I know use a big sulppyer for live food and animals as well, they are however being really good and keeping a firm eye on the supplyer as there have recently been some small concerns with the animals they have had in. The problem is most pet shops cant aford to buy at a reasonable price from breeders and then sell on they just would not get them sold at all cause they would be priced to high for anyone to want to buy and as the pet shop is a bussiness they need to make some profit plus cover overheads etc.
 
My local pet store said that they would buy any extra babies from breeders, however they don't often know the genetic background or sex of their corns.

As for the chain stores, I'm not too sure. I saw bettas at Petsmart that were obviously "rejects" from a breeder (I could tell by the fins), so I would imagine that they would get whatever corns they could get their hands on.
 
Well I am not sure where you are but the pet shop I was refering to uses a big sluppyer in the UK called Perigine who do country wide stuff. I have no idea where perigine get their corns from but I do know they get some of their other animal stock from the wild which is why I wont use them anymore. Had I known before I got my amel thats where she came from I would not have brought him/her. But then again the little one might well have died if it had gone to another home as its under weight and sized for its age. I have also been able to point this out ot the pet shop and have reconmended that they treat the corns they get from there as if they were younger and put them on a 4 to 5 day feed insteed of a once week feed that a older snake would most likely be on if things were normal weight and size wise.
 
I'm happy selling to my local shop and it's acceptable that they sell my hatchlings on for much more than they give me.

The lower price I get, is the price I pay for the convenience. I breed for fun and I don't have time to find upwards of 100 good homes, whereas they do. It's part of their job and I know they do it. I know that they will spend a lot of time with a new reptile owner before they sell and I have seen them refuse to allow a purchase on a couple of occasions. Last month, I was queueing in the shop for half an hour while they talked someone out of buying an iggy.

I have a deal where they give me trade price on frozen food and some equipment all year, so I do get something more from them.
 
PnyKlr said:
As for the chain stores, I'm not too sure. I saw bettas at Petsmart that were obviously "rejects" from a breeder (I could tell by the fins),
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Ha! That's why we can't keep those fish alive! :idea:
 
Just a "what if" devils, advocate kind of question, but I'm pretty sure I read on here that Rich sends off a lot of babies to pet stores in bulk lots, I'm pretty sure he even mentioned he ends up sending them some pretty cool stuff sometimes too?

I couldn't tell you where my pet shop was getting a lot of their fancy morphs but I have gotten an amber, bloodred, miami and motley blizzard all from the wholesaler who was selling to my shop :) Just lucky I guess.

I think the main point should be that in a perfect world people who really know their reptiles and what to look for are safe enough to buy something from a pet shop, but the average person who doesn't REALLY know what they are looking at should probably head off to a breeder?.....

:)

Rebecca
 
pgr8dnlvr said:
I think the main point should be that in a perfect world people who really know their reptiles and what to look for are safe enough to buy something from a pet shop, but the average person who doesn't REALLY know what they are looking at should probably head off to a breeder?.....

:)

Rebecca
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I think that is a good advice!
 
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