White House Blaming the Shutdown on....

[Outcast]

You guessed it, the House Republicans......

Yet, it is the House that has continuously come to an agreement and passed a budget, but the Senate has decided they didn't want it. This last time was something that included that all government employees (congress/senate/etc) would have to deal with being enrolled into the "Obamacare"

If the United States government shuts down tonight and our economy takes a hit, it will be because House Republicans let it happen.

Right now, there's a bill sitting in the House that funds the government for a few more weeks. It doesn't demand the repeal or delay of the health care law, or deny women access to birth control, or include any other failed, partisan proposals. It funds the government. That's it. And if Republican leadership allowed a simple yes or no vote on this bill -- like the Senate has -- it would get enough support from members of both parties to pass.

Instead, the government that these Republicans were elected to fund will close down and that will hurt our economy. Americans across the country won't be allowed to show up for work. Paychecks could be delayed, meaning some folks will have to cut back on groceries or maybe even not pay a few bills. Businesses will have fewer customers. Veterans won't get services they rely on -- and it will put benefits for seniors at risk.

Even though they've already voted over 40 times to defund or delay the health care law, this group of Republicans in Congress is so obsessed with the idea of sabotaging Obamacare that they're willing to take the economy hostage to do it.

Take a look at how this shutdown will affect millions of Americans -- and then make sure you share it so other folks know, too.

President Obama has said time and time again that he's willing to work with folks on both sides of the aisle to grow our economy and even improve the health care law. But using the threat of government shutdown or defaulting on the bills our country owes is reckless and irresponsible.

In fact, shutting down the government won't stop Obamacare. The Health Insurance Marketplace will still open for business starting tomorrow, without delay.

Washington needs to stop manufacturing crises and focus on the issues that matter: creating jobs and building a strong middle class. Taking our economy over the cliff just to score political points isn't fair to the millions of Americans who show up every day to work and do their jobs. It’s time for Congress to do its job.

Make sure you know exactly who this shutdown is directly affecting and then pass it on.

Thanks,

David

David Simas
Deputy Senior Advisor
The White House
@Simas44

P.S. -- You'll still be able to sign up for affordable health insurance on HealthCare.gov starting tomorrow, shutdown or no shutdown.

So, in the end, it is all the Republicans fault, and the Democrats have wiped their hands of responsibility, yet again. Because they are just as stupid when it comes to negotiation as the Republicans are. They are just as headstrong, and after they don't get their way, they blame the other side, just as much.

You want any more proof that we should remove these idiots from the leadership of our country?

 

[Sindrik8x]

I was never a proponent of Obamacare. I don't agree on paying for everyone's healthcare on my individual dime and never will. No offense as I know there are plenty of individuals out there that are unemployed and deserve it due to situations that may have happened to them (downsizing, legit layoffs, companies shutting down, etc.), but there are just as many that don't and sit there and collect unemployment and put little effort into getting back out in the job market and at least WORKING to support our economy until they find better jobs.

However, I don't agree that fighting over a LAW that was going to go into effect regardless is the way to go here. Shutting down our government is not going to help the economy. Especially when there isn't any optimism on back end pay for the individuals this go round. How is money going to be pumped into our economy now with all these folks out of work out spending less and buying only bare essentials to get buy, IF they can afford those... Obamacare would have in the end died itself. As soon as a Republican president is nominated into office, it's gone, good riddance, see you later. That's the beauty of our country. Change can happen over and over again. All it takes is voting folks out of office, which WILL be done next go round (midterms).

I work at a local community college in Northern Virginia. The second largest on the East Coast next to Miami Dade. I work in the tri-state area, which is one of the hubs most affected by this shut down as we are right outside of DC. We alreayd have tons of military persons back in the states not getting their GI's, having problems with financials to go back to school. Now, we have government employees and contractors that are not going to be able to afford to send their kids to school because of this shut down. Our enrollment is going to struggle and dip way down for the second eight week session here in October. There will likely be job freezes, and possibly part time cuts due to funds not filtering in. This shut down impacts more than the government. It trickles down to everyone.

Disagreeable, political bureaucracy has doomed our country yet again. Nothing is getting done because our leader of our country won't call in the big players from both sides, lock themselves in a room and find some common ground on this dilemma. I get people wanting to take their stances, but these individuals don't understand what this means to those that are now sitting at home. CONGRESS IS STILL GETTING PAID!!! That's ridiculous! Our "leaders: that have done nothing but quarrel for months knowing these deadlines were approaching, knocking down bills left and right, talking about how they are dead on arrival without even looking at terms, have screwed all of our hard workers.

Way to go Prez, way to go Congress. This is what our fore fathers would love to see. I bet they are rolling around in their damn graves right now.

 

[Guruofchem]

Definition of Congress - a body lacking both sense and conscience which evinces no allegiance to the electorate it ostensibly serves

 

[Sindrik8x]

^ We need a like button on cornsnakes.com

 

[Outcast]

Letter from Senator Pearce

Dear Aaron,

As of midnight, the Democrat-controlled Senate has refused to pass any of the three continuing resolutions proposed by the House of Representatives. As a result, the federal government will shut down until an agreement can be reached to resume government funding.

I have always believed that Congress should be held to the same standards as everyone else. As a result, I have made the difficult decision that my staff will be furloughed. And, though the Constitution requires that members of Congress must be paid, I will pay back to the U.S. Treasury the salary I am paid during the shutdown. I had hoped that a shutdown could be avoided: I encourage all New Mexicans to contact their Senators and urge them to pass the House Continuing Resolution and end the shutdown.

I have voted three times to prevent a shutdown, and have asked all sides to negotiate and compromise to reach a fair solution.

From the beginning, I have advocated the elimination of Obamacare exemptions for Congress and congressional staff. I submitted an amendment to the Continuing Resolution, and introduced legislation, H.R. 3198, to accomplish this goal. Today, the House has made this a central piece of its position on the bill to continue to fund the government: Washington lawmakers, staffers, and appointees must sign up for Obamacare just like all Americans. We must end the special privileges for the political class in Washington. More importantly, I call on my colleagues in the Senate to stop demanding special privileges for themselves and do the right thing and align Washington with the rest of the nation.

God bless you, and God bless America.

STEVE PEARCE

Member of Congress

 

[Outcast]

Congressman Pearce... Not senator...

 

[Sindrik8x]

Wish there were more like that, but the reality of the matter is I doubt many are doing what he is with his check. Even if one of them gets paid, it's an injustice in my eyes.

Looks like we have at least one that has his stuff together.

Either that or he puts on a heck of an act. I'd like to see the deposit slip or wage deduction from his account. Doubt he'll be willing to show any evidence of it. Just saying.

 

[Tara80]

Yeah, they need to all pull their heads out of their behinds.
I'm a little frustrated.

Truck just broke down and ate our entire savings of $3,200.
Boyfriend just quit and spent $5,000 on getting his A license (starts a new job today, at least)
And now - I don't get my next paycheck, because the senate is comprised of a bunch of whiny .a.$.$....... well, you get the point.
One of the continuing resolutions proposed, even, was just merely "let's put off Obamacare until we can come to some sort of agreement", and they didn't even want to do that.

 

[Outcast]

I just keep on finding it interesting how the Senate and White house, blame the House, because it has a larger concentration of Republicans.... When even many of the Democrats within the House voted to send those resolutions forward... And many of the Republicans in the Senate voted against said resolutions.... It makes you wonder if they really wanted to shut the government down. Scare us into submission, if you will.

 

[Outcast]

Rand Paul on CNN

http://youtu.be/S5X-uh-0rPs

 

[Nanci]

One of the continuing resolutions proposed, even, was just merely "let's put off Obamacare until we can come to some sort of agreement", and they didn't even want to do that.

It's time for Democrats to admit that the majority of the US citizens no longer want Obamacare, now that they have figured out it isn't free.

 

[Outcast]

Obama on Obamacare and the Shutdown.

http://youtu.be/MBTIKJHRIFU

Trying to add things from both sides as I find them.

 

[SarahP]

It's time for Democrats to admit that the majority of the US citizens no longer want Obamacare, now that they have figured out it isn't free.

I would actually like to see something that backs that up.

What I have heard/read/seen is that people are understandably nervous about Obamacare and not at all sure it's going to be as awesome as it's being touted, but that cutting its strings before anyone even has a chance to really see how it works is not what they want.

And Republicans, Democrats, whoever we're fingerpointing at, at the moment, the current fact remains the same: EVERYONE is getting screwed by our elected officials inability to act like grown-ups, put their differences aside and protect the country. As a whole.

I think if this was, as Outcast put it, to "scare us into submission", it failed mightily.

 

[Outcast]

You are right SarahP.

They keep on prodding a hibernating bear... Thinking that it will go right back to sleep if they wake it, they only want to take a little more lifeblood from it...

 

[ratsncorns]

Republicans blame Democrats.... Democrats blame Republicans.... and this surprises everyone? What else is new? :shrugs:

 

[tsst]

... Obamacare would have in the end died itself. As soon as a Republican president is nominated into office, it's gone, good riddance, see you later. That's the beauty of our country. Change can happen over and over again. All it takes is voting folks out of office, which WILL be done next go round (midterms).
...

I agree with much of what you posted except this part. Once an entitlement program is started neither side will try to take it back. (SSDI, welfare, food stamps, medicaid, section 8, obama phones, obamacare, etc)

Yeah, they need to all pull their heads out of their behinds.
I'm a little frustrated.

Truck just broke down and ate our entire savings of $3,200.
Boyfriend just quit and spent $5,000 on getting his A license (starts a new job today, at least)
And now - I don't get my next paycheck, because the senate is comprised of a bunch of whiny .a.$.$....... well, you get the point.
One of the continuing resolutions proposed, even, was just merely "let's put off Obamacare until we can come to some sort of agreement", and they didn't even want to do that.

I sincerely feel for you and all who, like always, pay the price for the 'Idiocracy' in DC. Hang in there Tara!

It's time for Democrats to admit that the majority of the US citizens no longer want Obamacare, now that they have figured out it isn't free.

Yep. Even MSNBC(aka Dem News Network) polls don't show it as favorable. And ANYONE that thinks adding millions to the insured is going to be free is utterly and completely self-delusional.

 

[Rich Z]

Quite frankly, can this country AFFORD a potential boondoggle like Obamacare? NOTHING is free. So where is the money going to come from to pay for it? Again, WHERE is the money going to come from?

Ahem, and bear in mind that those lovable Washington D.C. rascals are also wrangling over the fact that they can't keep their spending in check enough that a $16 TRILLION debt ceiling is enough for them. For all practical matters this country is already bankrupt and getting MORE bankrupt every day.

And the government has the balls to tell us that THEY should be running OUR health care needs? That they are competent enough for me to trust my health being in their hands?

Thanks, but NO thanks. Belize is looking better and better all the time.

 

[Outcast]

The discussion about passing the CR (funding the government) is far larger than just the Obamacare question. The government is printing about $1 Trillion a year (40% of the US operating budget) because we can no longer borrow enough to make up the shortfall.

So the question between the two sides is: shall we continue what we have been doing; ie the President’s position of a “clean CR” or shall we make any acknowledgement that our current spending is unsustainable?

My position has been that printing money is the last ditch effort of a failing economy and that we must change course…even if it is no more than saying that Washington must live by the same laws it passes…ie we, in DC, should not receive the $1,000 per month subsidy the President has suggested.

I can understand the President not wanting to defund the ACA and we gave in on that. It is harder to understand why he did not want to delay giving fines to individuals who do not get signed up on an exchange but we gave in on that also.

But for him to insist that people inside DC are somehow elite and above the laws everyone else is subject to smacks of the imperialism in the countries our founding fathers escaped from.

I was up early this morning and prayed my usual morning prayers of thanksgiving for my family and for the blessing of living in this country and asked for wisdom today to discern the best way forward for this country and her people…not just for today but for our children and grandchildren.~ Congressman Steve Pearce

Got this from his face book page today.

 

[Nova_C]

Something I don't understand about this:

The ACA was passed into law. As in, it went through debate, both houses, and was signed into law. Isn't this a massive violation of the democratic process that a group can simply freeze the government and demand that a law be defunded? Polls show the ACA has a small majority of support, but let's say it's 50/50 (Excluding undecideds). Does this mean that the whole process can be circumvented?

The ACA was passed as any law before it. Whether or not you like the law is irrelevant. This is not how democracy is supposed to work.

PS and somewhat related: The Republicans aren't looking so good in this. Most people see them as at fault for the shutdown (Fox is calling it a slimdown? What does that even mean?) This may backfire huge on the Republican party.

 

[tsst]

Something I don't understand about this:

The ACA was passed into law. As in, it went through debate, both houses, and was signed into law. Isn't this a massive violation of the democratic process that a group can simply freeze the government and demand that a law be defunded? Polls show the ACA has a small majority of support, but let's say it's 50/50 (Excluding undecideds). Does this mean that the whole process can be circumvented?

The ACA was passed as any law before it. Whether or not you like the law is irrelevant. This is not how democracy is supposed to work.

PS and somewhat related: The Republicans aren't looking so good in this. Most people see them as at fault for the shutdown (Fox is calling it a slimdown? What does that even mean?) This may backfire huge on the Republican party.

First we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.

As for the ACA not much about it has followed the law of the land. Starting with the SCOTUS altering it to make it constitutional to Obama arbitrarily changing parts he wants to.

The MSM is portraying it as a rep shutdown but they are at least equally responsible. The house sent three successive proposals to the senate and Harry Reid refused to even vote on them.

The whole thing is a mess.

What we needed was healthcare/cost reform. What we got was another unsustainable entitlement program managed by the most inefficient group the fedgov.