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Why I don't always kill the "freaks"

MohrSnakes said:
So....you think my one-eyed snake shouldn't be a part of a breeding program?
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If that gene can be passed along, the offspring could be one eyed, eyeless, or normal.
After talking to VinnyJ, who has an eyeless corn, I understand his concerns of not breeding such undesireable mutation.
 
Nanci said:
I believe it to be a sex-linked gene, with only the males being affected.
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I think you're right Nanci... all males. These one eyed snakes are often covered by the blue gene. Blue genes vary in color from a dark blue to a faded light blue. If you're lucky enough to have one 20 years old it may even have the acid washed blue genes.
 
jpccusa said:
If that gene can be passed along, the offspring could be one eyed, eyeless, or normal.
After talking to VinnyJ, who has an eyeless corn, I understand his concerns of not breeding such undesireable mutation.
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Yes...I agree it "could" be a bad thing...but no one has definitive proof with corns that these kind of things are inheritable. Might be interesting to see how these defects work...
 
OK, this guy walks into a bar with a One Eyed Snake on his head. The bartender takes one look and says “Alright what’s up with that?”

The snake says “I don’t know, it started out as a wart on my butt.”
 
I just wanted to say that I think he's gorgeous, I've had several 3 legged animals that I've adopted including a hampster named Tripod, a frog, and a house gecko, as well as a gecko with missing toes. those were all most likely injuries from somewhere. I think its great that you gave him a chance he looks like he's doing great.
 
I respect you for seeing the value of life, if the snake is'nt suffering from it's abnormality then there's no question it should have a chance.
People who kill them for superficial deformities clearly have no right to own reptiles, we took them out of the wild and if we want to breed them for our own self gain, then we should offer them the best life we can.
No life is a throw away, and people should really follow in your steps, it's our privelage to own reptiles, and our responsibilty to care for them not just in captivity but in the wild as well.
 
michael couture said:
I respect you for seeing the value of life, if the snake is'nt suffering from it's abnormality then there's no question it should have a chance.
People who kill them for superficial deformities clearly have no right to own reptiles, we took them out of the wild and if we want to breed them for our own self gain, then we should offer them the best life we can.
No life is a throw away, and people should really follow in your steps, it's our privelage to own reptiles, and our responsibilty to care for them not just in captivity but in the wild as well.
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Sorry, but when it comes to deformed animals, there is only one real option for most people, that is euthanasia. Some have the determination and will to maintain an animal that would obviously not make it in the wild, I commend this person, they are doing a great job. I on the other hand would have immediately put this snake in the freezer, same as any other deformed animal. Most breeders would agree that this is the way things should be done. Sorry to burst your bubble, but what it comes down to for the serious breeder is cost, what will it cost to house, maintain, and feed this animal for the rest of its life? what will I get in return from it? For most, it would cost way to much to get no financial return.
 
mike17l said:
Some have the determination and will to maintain an animal that would obviously not make it in the wild....
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That would also apply to many of our morphs, wouldn't it?



mike17l said:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but what it comes down to for the serious breeder is cost, what will it cost to house, maintain, and feed this animal for the rest of its life? what will I get in return from it? For most, it would cost way to much to get no financial return.
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Depends what you call a "serious" breeder. I'm not too sure the bottom line is what makes a serious breeder. I would like to believe there are still some serious breeders that see snakes instead of a snake in an S-shape with two slashes running vertically....

And what will one get in return? To many, the intrinsic living value of a snake (normal, albino, deformed or otherwise) may outweigh any monetary value. I'm sure there are lots of people on this site that love their corn and don't love it less because it is a normal or albino or snow.

By the shear fact that I've kept this corn illustrates that he has a purpose in my collection. In fact, I actually get great joy in watching him grow and am fascinated that he lived when so many others would have dumped him in the freezer or the kingsnake cage because his monetary value would be less then the first pinkie he ate.
 
mike17l said:
Some have the determination and will to maintain an animal that would obviously not make it in the wild, I commend this person, they are doing a great job.
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Did you miss that part, I wasn't ragging on you, I was just saying that I and most would not have taken the path you did, that's all.
 
MohrSnakes said:
I actually get great joy in watching him grow and am fascinated that he lived when so many others would have dumped him in the freezer or the kingsnake cage because his monetary value would be less then the first pinkie he ate.
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Once a pet owner, always a pet owner.

Nice job Jeff. :cheers:
 
mike17l said:
Did you miss that part, I wasn't ragging on you, I was just saying that I and most would not have taken the path you did, that's all.
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No I did not miss that part and there are no hard feelings at all. I know you weren't ragging on me. You just merely stated a few stances that I didn't necessarily agree with.

Firstly, I disagree "Most breeders would agree that this is the way things should be done." I think if a snake ate and defecated fine and was otherwise healthy, there is a good chance many people would find this a worthwhile pet and a significant handful of breeders would keep it alive to see what happens or at least long enough to give it a good home. Maybe, maybe not? But without a poll of "most breeders" I'm not sure we can make that statement one way or another.

My other comment on your initial post was that although I understand you--and perhaps others as well--may not want the trouble of raising deformed hatchlings just because of the lack of financial gain, I believe that money is not always the determining factor of the worth of a snake.
 
Thank God and all the goodness in the world that there are people like you i couldn't imagine that there are people that would kill something just because it wasn't perfect, to take somethings life because of something it couldn't help ,you know im sure if those people would put the deformed snake up for shipping and cost of food (a huge burden im sure) someone would give it a wonderful loving home for the rest of its life ,which is just what it deserves you know i thought that one of the reasons buying from a breeder was supposed to be better was because they care for the health of the animal more than an average pet store i guess breeders run as different as run of the mill pet stores
 
I am with Jeff on this, I would have done the same and raised this guy up.
Ccome one, not many men can walk into a school for an Animal presentation and talk about having a one eye snake, pull it for all the youngsters to see and not be arrested. :bang:


But seriously, I would have kept the guy as well and try it out. Snakes like these would make a great pet for some kid or someone who loves snakes that do not want to breed them.
 
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