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will he get "stressed?" if i put him in a bigger tank already??

cornelius_13

cornelius_13

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he's about a foot long.. and as wide as my pink sorta...


i got a 20 gallon tank.. and he seems a little cramped in the one he's in now.

i heard they get stressed if the tank is too big.. is that true? :shrugs:
 
that whole stress thing, is a load of crap IMO, how do they live in the wild then?
I start all my baby snakes, in there adult enclosures, Picture a little 18" Boa, in a 5x2x2 Viv, Just offer lots of hides, and they will move to where they feel best.. there is no NEED to start them small.. lots of people do it because they don't want to pay the money for a larger tank upfront...
 
I put a seven gram baby in this 20L because it was all I had. She's one of my most active snakes and is even out during the day. Just make sure there is plenty of cover and a network of vines to travel in.
 

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Nice to see people finally understanding that you CAN'T have TOO MUCH room as long as you provide ample cover.
 
RyanR said:
that whole stress thing, is a load of crap IMO, how do they live in the wild then?
I start all my baby snakes, in there adult enclosures, Picture a little 18" Boa, in a 5x2x2 Viv, Just offer lots of hides, and they will move to where they feel best.. there is no NEED to start them small.. lots of people do it because they don't want to pay the money for a larger tank upfront...
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But whenever someone has a gigantic tank we just tell them to make sure they provide tons of coverage, because even though the wild is large and expansive it's full of hiding spots.
As opposed to someone who say has a 40 gallon for a breeder, one hide on each side and wonders why they never see the snake, why? Cause they don't want to be exposed to they're hiding.
I don't think any of us have ever claimed that they would be stressed by the big space so much as by the lack of cover that some people are more reluctant to provide for such a large tank.
 
RyanR said:
that whole stress thing, is a load of crap IMO, how do they live in the wild then?
I start all my baby snakes, in there adult enclosures, Picture a little 18" Boa, in a 5x2x2 Viv, Just offer lots of hides, and they will move to where they feel best.. there is no NEED to start them small.. lots of people do it because they don't want to pay the money for a larger tank upfront...
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In the wild a snake doesnt lay in the middle of an open space offering itself to be a sitting duck.


You put a hatchling in a big enclosure with no cover, and yes theyll be stressed. Its not crap.

Ive put tiny hatchlings in big tanks before....but i throw a ton of stuff in there with them.
 
ENCLOSURE SIZE can not be too big. Period. it is all about cover.

Put a baby snake in a plastic cup with no paper towel to hide under, and you do just as much "damage" if the cup is clear.

Now, if you have a 40 gallon with a baby Corn in there, Aspen, and a water dish, I still say that is good enough. The Corn will hide under the Aspen, and the whole bottom of the tank is "A Hide". All of my snakes have hid under the Aspen at times and totally ignored the caves I have provided.

"Hides" don't have to be "caves". Many snakes use leaf litter as cover in the forests, just like the Aspen they dig into in in a tank.
 
JustineNYC said:
In the wild a snake doesnt lay in the middle of an open space offering itself to be a sitting duck.
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I've gotta take a picture of my Sitting Duck! She's the Hateling that occupies the 20L. She used to be really active, but really secretive. Now she just lounges around, mainly in front of that piece of wood on the ground. She doesn't even duck for cover if I wave at her (with one finger) and talk to her!

I'm not being disagreeable- in case you think that- just think it's a funny descriptive term!
 
hehehe...we have a sitting duck too...

He likes to line himself up along the front glass of the enclosure during they day and lifts his head curiosly when we go up to say hello.

Our girl likes the makeshift driftwood type hides...pieces of cardboard and the mini frisbees...she likes the really secure feeling:)
 
Everyone is right. I mean yes in the wild they hide under anything, so you can provide pretty much anything for them to hide under. My corn is 15grams and in a 55 gallon tank. It has plenty of aspen, a vine system, and a few hides. He never uses the hides, and he does climb the vines at night which is pretty funny to watch. He is also very skiddish and will duck away if you even walk up to the tank.
 
Nanci said:
I've gotta take a picture of my Sitting Duck! She's the Hateling that occupies the 20L. She used to be really active, but really secretive. Now she just lounges around, mainly in front of that piece of wood on the ground. She doesn't even duck for cover if I wave at her (with one finger) and talk to her!

I'm not being disagreeable- in case you think that- just think it's a funny descriptive term!
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My male is ALWAYS out. I do the same thing, wave to him, or poke my head in the top and say hi to him....he just looks up. But hes been like that since the day I got him. Thats the Abbott I got from Lee. Hes got plenty of hides but even the first day I let him out of his deli cup, he just hung out looking around. Not phased in the least.

He just kinda reminds me of a typical boy. My females I never see.
 
Does this count as a sitting duck?

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knox said:
Nice to see people finally understanding that you CAN'T have TOO MUCH room as long as you provide ample cover.
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Problem not every one understands this, Nanci has been doing this for awhile but many newbs will just place a few items in a tank and call it good.

I prefer using small fauna keepers, the large flat ones with a hide and water dish. They typically stay in here from 10 grams all the way to 150.

g124v17y said:
Everyone is right. I mean yes in the wild they hide under anything, so you can provide pretty much anything for them to hide under. My corn is 15grams and in a 55 gallon tank.
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LOL to me this is a bit over kill, I don't use this for my corns, 20 L to a 30 L are good enough But prefer to use a 55 as a small tropical Reef tank. (now lets talk about money pits here. lol) I got a pair of box turtles in one of mine and I am thinking time for a new salt water tank this spring. ;)
 
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